Like Filipino elections: Efren Peñaflorida’s rigged “win”
After a stressful day at work the way I relax my mind is to go on Facebook to catch up with friends and see what they have been up to since the last time I logged in. So after an extra hectic day today, I got into comfortable clothes, turned the heat up to a comfortable temperature, poured myself a glass of juice, settled in front of the computer and logged on to Facebook.
The website opened up with a list of most recent updates my friends have made and I noticed that a lot of them have posted something along the lines of “Congratulations to Efren Peñaflorida, CNN Hero of the Year!” and “I am proud to have voted for you.” Once again, I had to shake my head in disappointment about the highly predictable reaction of the common Filipino.
Memories of other on-line voting “triumphs” came back to mind. One was that of Jasmine Trias of the reality show American Idol whom Filipinos rallied behind like a pack of rabid dogs using all the phones they could get their hands on. The same thing went for Brooke Burke in Dancing with the Stars. Heck, even the Chocolate Hills (which is really nothing compared to other wonders of the world) was not spared from this on-line/phone voting frenzy that Filipinos wet their pants in excitement about.
So I replied to one of those who posted about Mr. Peñaflorida and I pointed this out:
There really is nothing to be so proud about in Efren Peñaflorida’s so-called victory.
Let me explain. The nature of his “win” is rooted in a system called “on-line voting”. On-line voting involves people logging on to a website to cast their votes which are then tallied by the system running behind that website. Usually IP addresses and/or cookies are used to uniquely identify individual votes captured by the system in order to avoid duplicates. It is easy to get around this. All you have to do is reconnect your modem/router and clear your cache, then you can cast your vote again. There are many other ways for people to game on-line voting systems to vote multiple times, but this blog is not about the fine technical points of such activities.
To understand the significance of the loopholes of the sort of on-line voting system that catapulted Peñaflorida to world renown, consider the recent activity I monitored in the various mailing lists on various subjects that I am a member of. Some of these mailing lists are of Filipino groups and some are primarily American. In the Filipino groups, we were always bombarded by messages to vote for Mr. Peñaflorida and to forward it to all our friends. Some schlemiels even forwarded it to all their friends and back to the group. In contrast to all this, the American mailing lists were all discussing topics consistent with the purpose of their group and not once did I get an email soliciting a vote for Americans who were also part of the CNN Heroes contest.
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I explained these points to the poster on Facebook and she basically said that Efren won because Filipinos wanted him to win. I replied that that is exactly where the problem lies. He won because Filipinos wanted him to win and not because he really was the best among the contestants. Yes, Mr. Peñaflorida did good. Yes, he should be happy that he won, got recognition and harvested a big chunk of money as well. But Filipinos should not be trumpeting about how proud they are of his “victory” because the way it was “achieved” was through a system which yields results that are best taken with a grain of salt. Maybe the CNN Heroes organizers do not realize it, but Filipinos in the Internet and cel-phone age have developed a propensity to get into what we call voting frenzies. Too many people who just have too much time on their hands keep going on line, voting and soliciting the heck out of everyone to jump right into the voting horde just so some Filipino can win and quench their compatriots’ thirst for the next “hero” to latch on to.
My explanation further inflamed the Pinay poster and she continued to defend Peñaflorida. What she and many typical Filipinos don’t understand is that it is not Peñaflorida specifically that was being criticized here. I acknowledge that he did a lot of great things and got funding (even a windfall if you count this latest one) for them. The criticism actually goes to the Filipinos in general (and maybe even Efren himself) who start tooting their own horns once things like this happen even if we all know deep inside that there was a lot of excess effort put behind his “win” compared to those of the other candidates.
Efren Peñaflorida’s “victory” did not prove that Filipinos are a cut above the rest. It was merely a recognition at most for what he has done above and beyond what a common man would do. What his “win” has proven though, is that:
1. Filipinos have a lot more time on their hands
2. Filipinos will exert more effort to win on-line or phone voting polls in order to create a new “hero” to worship than other nationalties
3. Filipinos will trumpet the “victory” of a person (or even a bunch of hills) even if what caused the win is a highly flawed system
4. Filipinos will get defensive and angry if you point out the realities behind the “victory” and resort to emotionalism
5. Filipinos need to get real and work on attaining real victories instead of virtual ones
As long as Filipinos keep on doing what they’re doing, what keeps happening to them will keep happening.
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Sana ma realize na ng mga Pilipino na hindi ang pag aaksaya ng oras ang solusyon sa mga problema ng bayan kundi magpakatino sila.
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JP Reply:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
oh please tell what have you done.
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Do yourself a favor, JP Reply:
December 6th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
That is entirely irrelevant, JP. Read the entirety of the article so you’ll understand the idea and intention of the post.
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Stop Hsing Tsao or whoever you you are not helping in this discussion. You are a troll.
Anyways don’t trivialize efrern’s win too much it takes way from the spirit of what he is doing.; In the end I’ll know I’l sleep at night because my vote helped poor people who are really and genuinely trying to help themselves. So please stop this stupid arguement about the votes and your trolling ways it shows how some filipinos have hollow hearts.
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Hsing Tao Reply:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Read this: http://getrealphilippines.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=356:efren-penaflorida-a-reminder-of-how-little-weve-achieved-as-a-people&catid=81:character-and-culture&Itemid=198
It will broaden your hollow mind.
Let me also paste it here
Efren Peñaflorida: a reminder of how little we’ve achieved as a people
Saturday, 05 December 2009 00:00 benign0 .The recent AntiPinoy.com article Like Filipino elections: Efren Peñaflorida’s rigged “win” certainly touched a lot of raw nerves in recent days. The article, as its title implies, explores certain disturbing aspects around the way this year’s CNN Hero of the Year, Efren Peñaflorida, earned international recognition. Much of the rawness of the nerves touched involved outrage over what is perceived to be the article’s undermining of Penaflorida’s “achievement”. The outrage in the comments (which as of this writing number close to seven hundred!), stems from a rather shallow understanding of the fundamental nature of Peñaflorida’s “CNN Hero of the Year” title that Filipinos now celebrate.
In the minds of many Filipinos, in other words, earning the title of CNN Hero of the Year, makes Peñaflorida special. Indeed he is “special” in the context of the Philippine setting where “heroic” deeds that mitigate systemic societal dysfunction are prized. But this flavour of specialness seems to have been confused with the notion of being special relative to the others “heroes” he competed with for the CNN title.
Efren Peñaflorida won the title against the other candidates for the CNN title not because of the merit of his achievements relative to the other competing entries. He won it largely because he happened to be Filipino in a contest whose winner was determined by an on-line vote not much different from the sort used in reality television shows. And as it happens, there was an entire organised campaign within Filipino communities all over the world to vote for Peñaflorida on the basis of his being a Filipino. Indeed, as the title of the article from which the following excerpt is quoted, Pinoys online deliver victory for Pinoy CNN Hero:
One best strategy that contributed significant votes to Efren is the so-called “marathon voting”. Like a Holiday sale where more consumers are enticed to shop for cheaper merchandises, marathon voting is a process where online users encourage their colleagues to vote up to the last minute.
Definitely Filipino (DF), an online organization with more than 380,000 Facebook fans, religiously campaigned for Efren. In fact, the organization used the schedule feature of Facebook to create the “24-Hour Voting Marathon for Efren Peñaflorida” during the last day of voting. The same platform indicated time differences from around the world for the online users to beat the deadline for voting.
It seems the Filipino on-line voter, as evident in the above report, is now a cyber-force to reckon with. But it begs the question as to what then defines a “winner” in these on-line contests — considering it is now known that candidates of certain nationalities have the benefit of a horde-like army of on-line voters waiting to unleash “24-hour Voting Marathons” upon the unsuspecting competition — a voting machine that votes on the basis of ethnicity. That “international recognition” seen to be part of being CNN Hero of the Year, it turns out, is a title bestowed on Peñaflorida primarily by his own compatriots and not by an evenly-represented multi-national electoral body. Indeed, it is doubtful that those who rose to the call to “support” a compatriot and voted for Peñaflorida in response to these campaigns even considered the merits of the other candidates he was competing with for the title. There was no evaluation as to whether Peñaflorida deserved the title considering the achievements of the other competing candidates.
Beyond how Peñaflorida earned his title, the bigger question is why Filipinos (1) so desperately seek heroes and (2) so quickly look to the achievements of heroes as sources of “Filipino pride”. Perhaps it is because we need to compensate for the larger failure of the collective to deliver more substantial bases for that pride in being Filipino that continues to elude us.
Blogger Ben Kritz earlier suggested that rather than us being proud because of [Filipino champion boxer] Manny Pacquiao, we should simply be proud of him. In the same way let us not devalue Efren Peñaflorida’s achievements by making him a poster boy. Instead, let us see his achievements as a reminder of how little we Filipinos actually have to be proud of in ourselves as a people.
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Mr. JP, the voting system made available by CNN was never designed with Da Pinoy Condition in mind in the same way that other systems that are based on trust and honour that are successfully implemented in advanced societies have very loose controls.
For example, you need formidable physical barriers to prevent pedestrians in many parts of Manila from crossing streets in the wrong places and to deter cars and buses from swerving in and out of lanes. Compare that to cities in most advanced countries where everyone follows road markings and directional signage in their day-to-day use of their city streets.
Not surprisingly, the Philippines is referred to as what is called a Low-Trust Society. The propensity to game systems designed to operate in high-trust environments results in the implementation of tighter control measures in backward societies which has the un-intended effect of further increasing opportunities for corruption (fixers proliferate as control measures make processes more convoluted and mored difficult to navigate by ordinary people).
I cited in the article I linked to above what Jaime Licauco once observed:
Indeed, corruption in the Philippines is merely a symptom of the inherent nature of Pinoys that inclines us to put one over the other (iniisahan nating ang kapwa). And the CNN voting system is just another system built to work within high-trust societies that fell victim to Da Pinoy Condition.
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Very typical reaction from someone who’s blog is entitled “The Anti-Pinoy”. You’re as predictable as the Filipinos you’re bashing.
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ilda Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 12:56 am
Is there truth to what he’s saying though? Of course yes. Don’t tell me you are not aware of Filipinos who risk their lives and the motorists’ lives by jaywalking or crossing high-ways without using the pedestrian crossing? Among other things…
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As far as i can see, it is true that Filipinos did everything from text brigades, to mass emails, facebook and whatever they can get their hands on to vote for Efren. And i agree that Filipinos tend to have that sickness of voting for a Filipino in a singing contest, or whatever contest that requires voting. It may be called bayanihan, it may be called stupidity, it may be called free riding or whatever.
But from this forum, what i learned is that Filipinos tend to pull their fellow Filipinos down. We always tend to look at the bad side of things. Though criticisms maybe helpful in resolving one’s own problems or another person’s problems, no one, i mean no one in this forum has given a thought to: what can we do after Efren’s win? What is the meaning of Efren winning? How did he win?
He won because Filipinos got together to make him win. So why not apply that in our small little Filipino communities local and abroad. If Filipinos would do the same thing then maybe we can achieve something at least. Or for the simple example of traffic rules and regulations. If everyone followed, there would be no traffic accidents, no corrupt police or traffic officials on the streets, or more or less, no traffic jams.
He won so that people around the world could be inspired and especially in the Philippines. The other contestants did not loose in vain. They won too! Their stories were shown on TV, on the internet and more likely, those who know Efren’s good deeds also get a chance to be informed of the other CNN Hero of the Year candidates. All of them have inspired people, not only Efren. ALL of the candidates.
Idealist as it might sound. but cmon guys. Appreciating and being together in a cause would be more than helpful to our little failing country.
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OK ANTI-PINOYS
Yes, we are ALL corrupt
Yes, we are ALL tamad
Yes, we are ALL bobo
Yes, we are ALL stupid
Yes, we are ALL ignorant
Yes, we are ALL gago
Yes, we are ALL whatever
Sige tinatanggap na namin ok tama na mga sinasabi nyo
YOU ARE the very few na Pinoy na nag-iisip, matatalino, masipag at magagaling na tao.
The rest of us are bad eggs
Through these blogs you have proven your point
So what now?
Annihilate us ALL PINOYS like Hitler killed the Jews?
Ano ba gusto nyo talaga mangyari?
Sige accepted na nga namin what is wrong with us…
WHAT NOW?
Ano gagawin nyo sa amin????
Ha????
Ano ang magagawa nyo para umunlad nga tayo?
Wala pa akong nakikitang mga solution eh puros problema pine-present nyo
Asan mga solutions nyo asan na???
The fact remains you are making FALSE GENERALIZATIONS on a whim
NOT based on facts including the EFREN’S VOTERS RIGGING ACCUSATIONS that
YOU DON’T WANT TO ADMIT NA MALI
KAYO ANG AYAW MAG-ADMIT
Kahit the facts are IN YOUR FACE na CNN asked everyone to VOTE AS MANY AS YOU WANT
Di nyo ma-accept—THAT ARTICLE should not even be here anymore because IT’S FALSE
MATITIGAS ULO NYO MGA ANTI-PINOY TUNAY NA TUNAY
Kaya ako umiinit ang ulo dito!
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BATANG TONDO Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 8:36 am
START BEING factual
riiiight!
so what if I used 2 handles?
are we voting here…?
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BATANG TONDO Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 8:38 am
The fact remains you are making FALSE GENERALIZATIONS on a whim
NOT based on facts including the EFREN’S VOTERS RIGGING ACCUSATIONS that
YOU DON’T WANT TO ADMIT NA MALI
KAYO ANG AYAW MAG-ADMIT
Kahit the facts are IN YOUR FACE na CNN asked everyone to VOTE AS MANY AS YOU WANT
Di nyo ma-accept—THAT ARTICLE should not even be here anymore because IT’S FALSE
MATITIGAS ULO NYO MGA ANTI-PINOY TUNAY NA TUNAY
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BongV Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 8:40 am
This is a sample of ballot stuffing – rigging, gaming the system – lost in translation?
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Exhibit #1 – Pinoy flying voter –
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BATANG TONDO Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Lop-sided battle…
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BongV Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 8:41 am
This is a sample of ballot stuffing – rigging, gaming the system – lost in translation?
other nationalities were beaten by the PINOY FLYING voters – rigging the system never felt so good 
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BATANG TONDO Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 8:41 am
SO what I would take a flying voter THAN BE A TRAITOR TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY
TRAITORS!!
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BongV Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Being a FLYING VOTER is being a TRAITOR
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anti-antipinoy Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Flying Voter is not a term used in Online Voting… My goodness BongV… konting hinay sa paggamit ng terms ok? nakakahiya sa mga I.T yang pinagsasabi mo. Kung may kaibigan ka..tanungin mo sila kung acceptable yan…
BongV Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Ballot stuffing by another name – is just as sweet Ballot stuffing occurs when a person casts more votes than they are entitled to. In its simplest form, ballot stuffing literally involves ’stuffing’ multiple ballot papers into the ballot box. Another method is for voters to cast votes at multiple booths, on each occasion claiming that it is their only vote.Batang tondo, anti-anti-pinoy, what’s in a name – same teacher of FLYING VOTERS
I am proud to say he was my student 1998-2000 in SSCR, he was taking up Computer Technology, before he was about to graduate I asked him to continue to BSComSci, WHY? he’s a very intelligent and humble student. But he told me “Mam gusto ko po maging teacher!”, I answered “there’s no money in teaching.” he replied with a smile. With his reply I know, he wants to learn and impart that learning. This is the person who did all of those things with real and pure intention. I am his instructor and Im that proud, he deserves all these commendations. When he saw me in trece, after the program with all the unfamiliar faces and recognized me amidst of them, is one proof that niether the millions and recognition has changed him. SA MGA WALANG MAGAWA, MIGHT AS WELL JUST STOP AND CONTEMPLATE, KUNG ANONG PWEDE NYONG MACONTRIBUTE KAHIT SA SARILI NYO MUNA.
Now you tell me,,, isa kang tao na hindi nabigyan ng pagkakataon na makita o makasama sya kahit sa isang segundo ng buhay mo… sa tingin mo may karapatan ka na humusga? CNN did not asked for money.. sa boto ng mga filipino malalaman mo na sa ganon kaliit na bagay,, kailangan ipakita sa mundo na tayo marunong magbasa, umintindi, at itaas ang moral ng kapwa natin. Kung sino ka man…sana marunong ka rin magbasa.. simple..ingles ang ginamit mo sa blog mo, nag-komento ka ng kulang sa “research” , pero hindi ka nagkulang sa paggamit ng halos di malunok na salita na halos di mo kinalakihan… ngayon sabihin mo kung SINO ANG DAPAT NA KINUKWESTYON? Naiintindihan mo ba ang pinagsasabi mo? Sino ba ang kumwestyon sa pagkapanalo nya? Ang CNN ba? Ang Buong Mundo ba? O Ikaw lang? Dumidepensa ka sa isang bagay na hindi naman kailangan. isa kang makabagong “MAKAPILI”, isa ka sa dahilan bakit hindi umuunlad ang bayan natin, SANA NAG-IISA KA LANG!… My Goodness, you’ve got a lot of discrimination, hatred, and insecurities in your life… I Pity You!
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BongV Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 8:46 am
your student took the initiative, why haven’t you?
all your life, you had the opportunity to do an efren, why haven’t you?
it has to take an efren to make you aware?
you mean as a teacher, you never thought it was wrong not to vote for politicians who invest in education? what kind of education are you giving your students?
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anti-antipinoy Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Well, I have produced an Efren. Have you? BTW, thanks for the comment.. And I am so very frustrated to learn that you have not learned RESPECT… And I never voted after Pres.Estrada for your information.. and if you really known politics..you will never state that…Good luck!
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BATANG TONDO Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 8:57 am
THANK YOU THANK YOU!
GOD BLESS YOU PO!!
anti-antipinoy Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 9:03 am
BTW.. on the first paragraph.”After a stressful day at work the way I relax my mind is to go on Facebook to catch up with friends and see what they have been up to since the last time I logged in. So after an extra hectic day today, I got into comfortable clothes, turned the heat up to a comfortable temperature, poured myself a glass of juice, settled in front of the computer and logged on to Facebook. “
This person have a job, but it is stressfull though (kindda hard to earn money), he even have the chance to buy comfortable clothes, drink juice and not plain water.
Just be contented, some filipinos na pinagtatanggol mo dont even have the luxury that you have.. Now BongV a friend of Rafterman are questioning me, WHY I DID NOT ACT MYSELF, AND LET MY STUDENT DO THE CHANGE?..
BongV Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 10:05 am
AAP:
You don’t get contented with a situation where people keep on voting for inept candidates who do not support education. By doing so, you condone the disparities and are contributing to exacerbating an already messed up condition.
You asked us a question of what we are doing, shouldn’t you also be asking the same question yourself? Sure you had an Efren as a student, but the question is even before you met Efren, why weren’t you doing the same thing. Sure you are a teacher – as your chosen profession that is your job to teach. Have you gone beyond the call of your duty?
We can go have a pissing contest – but will it address the issue that for every one Efren – there are 89.9 million who aren’t – and who are contented with the current mess, who condone it. Am way beyond getting enraged.
BATANG TONDO Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 9:10 am
duude i admit MIJAPOPPBTG and BT are both me because i wanted to use 2 diff handles in 2 diff topics and start over
i even admitted so to ILDA and Benigno so she knew who she was talking to in a different topic other than Efren
but i have no idea who AAP is believe me
but by the way,
is that legal for these blogs to expose anonymous bloggers’ email adds and IP addresses?
can you please check because i am a phone call away from my lawyer
BongV Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 9:20 am
As Google’s blog points out
Is an IP address personal data, or, in other words, can you figure out who someone is from an IP address?
A black-and-white declaration that all IP addresses are always personal data incorrectly suggests that every IP address can be associated with a specific individual. In some contexts this is more true: if you’re an ISP and you assign an IP address to a computer that connects under a particular subscriber’s account, and you know the name and address of the person who holds that account, then that IP address is more like personal data, even though multiple people could still be using it.
On the other hand, the IP addresses recorded by every website on the planet without additional information should not be considered personal data, because these websites usually cannot identify the human beings behind these number strings.
Moreover, we have no personal information whether the email addresses are that of a certain individual – and you can be spoofing his email address.
Bottom line – you post fair – DON’T BE DOING FRAUDULENT “Ballot stuffing”, “flying voter” type of stuff. And DON’T BE LYING!!!
As to AAP – an IP trace shows he is in the PI – but hey, IP addresses can be spoofed too.
BATANG TONDO Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Alright understood BongV
This has gone too far
Can you please take that information down for now
Whatever our differences are
I am talking to you now as a fellow Filipino and a fellow human being
I promise I will never come back to these blogs ever
Please take down all that private information out of these pages please or I am at a risk for my own security
BongV Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Not a biggie BT – you can throw a tantrum, be abusive if you want that’s fine – I respect Freedom of Expression. However, I also believe in fairness, freedom is not absolute. AAP can spread the AP IP address for all I care. He has the freedom to do that. However, if he encourages people to launch a DoSA – we know how to handle that, too.
I have no issues against Efren, he has done a great job, I run a volunteer organization myself – and so has Tony Meloto, and many more, It’s just a part of our lives and we don’t see anything heroic in it – it simply is the right thing to do.
The crux of the matter as often has been repeated is he did a good thing, he stepped up, have we?
BATANG TONDO Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Glad to know that and thanks again for taking that info down so quickly.
I can honestly say I voted for Efren once and that is the plain truth
Good luck with all your volunteer work as well
Let’s just work hard for a better Philippines
Mabuhay
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BATANG TONDO Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 11:15 am
BongV thanks a LOT!!
I owe you man…you missed a spot…
I am gone from here forever I promise….
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btw BongV.. kung talagang may alam ka.. alam mong hindi ko niloloko ang IP ko.. it cannot be spoofed..unique ito.. ito ang ginagamit to see the exact location of people like you…post this comment kung talagang matapang ka
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BongV Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 9:52 am
believe you me… it can be spoofed.
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anti-antipinoy Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
It cannot.. once you log-on the internet.. it is already you on the location where your computer is at.. I can create a subnet of a number of IPs if I want to.. pero isa lang sa isang PC… Pwede kaming i-hacked at gamitin ang IP namin for Identify theft..etc…My IP is ME.. YOur IP is YOU.. you made us AAP and BT vulnerable to hacking…
BTW..Thanks For deleting your post with our IPs on it..
And I will stop here…
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Hsing Tao Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
You do not know what you are talking about.
BongV Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 5:10 am
AAP:
Your IP gets changed a lot specially if your provider uses DHCP. You can say you have a dedicated IP block and your IP is in one of those blocks. There are many people using said IP bvlock, inasmuch as there are lots of people using the machine assigned the IP address. Chances are you are using an internal IP address on your PC which is translated via NAT protocols – your public IP will be different from your interal IP. Depending on the size of your network your internal IP address can be in the 10.*.*.*, or the 172.*.*.* or the 192.*..* subnet.
So, NO, your public IP address does not necessarily translate to a unique individual.
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We sure can be a force to reckon with politically, and “Kapamilya” really stands out when something we think for the good of our own kind needs a positive response. Lucky for us here in the states ’cause Fil-Am clubs are numerous which allow other cultures to realize our friendly intention. Proudly as well, we can present to them our tasty puto, bibingka, pancit, dinuguan, and other else. We can stand as one for a belief that Efren truly deserve to be elected as the 2009 CNN Hero ( Truly, those kids need incipient education which the government can’t bother to provide, and Efren with the help of his companions, made the important difference, and us, we simply supported them.)
If CNN detected anomalies in choosing the right person to win, then it must change its procedure next time ( it’s as simple as that). If its authorities think we Pinoys can act as one in voting to elect the most deserving one, they can just do it the other way next year. The guilty ones that voted many times certainly got away with flying colors; we can’t blame them because one can simply glance at the condition of the kids that Efren has been struggling to help and decide to ” no matter what” he’d vote with an even if. ( I voted myself, but only once.)
This coming Presidential election will certainly proove to the votees that Filipino voters cannot be deceived in choosing the right person to lead the government . Like Efren, who was voted to be number one; it’s like a team effort for the “WIN” of the next deserving governbment leaders. A
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ilda Reply:
December 8th, 2009 at 12:06 am
@Celestino
How can you be so sure about this? The people you are talking about don’t even understand what a platform is. Some do but don’t really care to ask a candidate for one because they are already voting for Noynoy. Do you have any idea what is their (majority) basis in voting someone into office? It’s all about who’s popular and who’s winnable, not on the basis of capability and credibility.
It’s sad that it had to take Efren for people like you to notice the underpriviledge kids.
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Kanto boy Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:41 am
What’s even worse is that Efren has allowed himself to be used by politicians like Noynoy for their campaign. Very bad.
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A BIG THREE HURRAHS’ for all the Pinoys all over the world for helping our kuya EFREN.
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Hsing Tao Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Big hurrah sa ugaling pag aaksaya ng oras at hindi pag unlad kaya kailangan ng bayan ng mga solusyong KARITON.
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ilda Reply:
December 8th, 2009 at 12:16 am
Celestino
As if his win is going to make a significant change to our society. I’m happy for Efren because of his selfless act and he received some funds but we are so pathetic if that’s the best hero we are ever going to produce.
If you call the attention of the international communities to the problems of our land, the international community will also ask why we are in this situation. Diba nakakahiya? What’s there to be proud of?
You gotta ask yourself why the department of education is not doing its job in the first place and why Efren has to do what he does. You have to analyse further and not just jump on the bandwagon. Think of a more sustainable solution. Use the same energy you put into making Efren win to call for the government to upgrade the education system in our country instead.
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Hsing Tao Reply:
December 8th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Congrats to Efren, but not to the Pinoy people.
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THIS IS THE WORST WEBSITE I HAVE EVER VISITED BECAUSE IT IS A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME, EFFORT, AND ATTENTION. I PITY YOU A LOT. A LOT. YAK. PWEH!
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Hsing Tao Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 12:24 am
That is because you are an emo and do not comprehend.
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Kanto boy Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 2:53 am
Complete waste of time? E ba’t ka nagpost? Ha ha ha ha ha!
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There are so many college students who are now pro-active which can sure change how the government leaders can positively contribute to CHANGE the majorities have been wishing for. The past is gone where choosing candidates for government service was unlawfully executed. If however the mentioned change somehow faltered, un-certainty definitely will again flourish, a three hundred sixty degree turn to LUCK is once again will rule. Nothing else can provide help to the government but prayers, more Efren like heroes are needed, and prevalent corruptions smile from ear to ear.
If the government have chosen noynoy to be the President so be it. I trust people’s judgement now than before when Marcos was leading. The people’s intellect have already evolved into something more usable in choosing their leaders. Noynoy with his inborn ability to which he’s well versed in Tagalog language, can very well pinpoint what the main problems are: his intellect and actions are very Filipino that’s not intermixed with: Americans; Chinese; Spanish; etc; and etc. He can very well understand problematic situations which are 100% Filipino because you are all Filipinos. He seldom speaks English not like some big shot Senators, Congressmen, Governors, and even Filipino Mayors. Noynoy is a Filipino, he is what you need, a truly FILIPINO leader. Get with it FILIPINOS or you’ll rot way down under.
And you Chinese Hsing Tao piece of ****, get the that hard rod sticking from your ASS BOY, be a MAN… GO HOME TO CHINA LOSER!!! where you ****in’ belong….
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Hsing Tao Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 12:55 am
My house is bigger than yours.
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ilda Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 1:04 am
Wow! kaya pala. You’re another Noynoy fan, go figure. Do you even know how he is going to handle the country? Or are you just so confident about him because he speaks tagalog? What’s so bad about English anyway? Why are you in America if you don’t like the language? There is nothing wrong with Speaking in English or Tagalog, don’t be racist.
You trust the intelligence of the electorate ha? Where is the evidence that they have matured? You’re putting all your eggs in one basket my dear. Try to compare what the other candidates have to offer first with that of Noynoy before you make your decision. Anak lang ni Cory, ok na sayo. Grabe naman sa analysis.
I know Noynoy’s got Chinese blood. You insult Hsing Tao and tell him to go back to China when in fact the Chinese in the Philippines are holding the economy together. Get your facts straight.
Efren is not what I call a hero, he’s just a philanthropist to me. He is a good man but you put people on such a high pedestal too quickly. Wait for the results first before you label someone a hero. Soon people will start saying he is a saint. Gimme a break!
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homer Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 2:16 am
Ugh! Another loser….
I express myself better in english than I do in tagalog. Does this make me less of a Filipino?
Jeez, you see it all the time when dumbass pinoys go, “pa-ingles-ingles pa siya…”. Don’t blame us because you can’t comprehend the language. Don’t blame us because you were too lazy to brush-up on your english.
If everything here has to be in a native dialect, how the hell can we ever compete globally? It’s really so simple, but the dumbasses keep pulling us back due to their refusal to change.
Even Noy knows this, but even he has to resort to speaking in tagalog to win the dumbass votes.
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tsinoy ako pinoy tayo, ipakita sa mundo! Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 2:41 am
Celestino, hey! Noynoy Aquino is part Chinese! Do you know where his mother’s maiden surname Cojuangco comes from? It’s the nickname of his pure-chinese great great grandfather in the Fookien dialect!
Don’t be racist against us. We Tsinoys are Pinoys too. And many Pinoys have Chinese blood. Not all, but many do. So don’t go around calling people names. Stop being racist. Terrible.
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Hing ****… I don’t give a careless BOY if your house is as big as the Pyramid…. all I know is that you are a Chinese pretending to be a Filipino. And Ilda if you think you’re an American, come over here in the states, we Fil-Ams will definitely laugh at you. Yah, tell everyone over here that you’re a white person which will ring a bell that you are truly and indeed a FAKE. Filipinos wants to be like AMERICANS? Go ahead be what you want to be, but be FILIPINOS first, help your fellow counrty people first instead of ****ING THEM: BASTARDS LOW DOWN IMBECILES.
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tsinoy ako pinoy tayo, ipakita sa mundo! Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 2:54 am
Man you’re racist.
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BongV Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Celestino:
You are the type of Fil-Am that makes other Fil-Ams stay away from the vacuous Fil-am goodtime.
For one you don’t go in to a FilAm party saying you are “white” – that’s ridiculous.
Second, you are in America – behave as Americans do – follow the law, have a sense of civics – otherwise, if you insist on your antiPinoy ways, GO BACK TO THE PHILIPPINES.
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You are accusing me as being a RACIST? You are definitely worst than me you DARN MORON, ’cause you are a racist against your own people, which is more stinkin’ than a rotten fish.
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benign0 Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 2:22 am
Racism is discriminating without basis. Pointing out cultural flaws in Filipinos, on the other hand, is based on widely observed behaviour and realities. Deal with it.
The fact is, Pinoys have consistently failed to prosper as a people in their own country. If you cite Pinoys making it big in the U.S., that simply highlights the reality that Pinoys are better off away from one another than together as a “country”. In fact the concept of being “Filipino” does not even stand for anything. Let me ask you, Celestino, what does the “Filipino” stand for?
This challenge — to articulate in precise terms what the filipino STANDS for — has been around for sometime and no one so far has stepped up to respond to this challenge with a convincing concept of it. Check out this article for reference on the history behind this challenge that Pinoys have chronically FAILED to step up to.
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ilda Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 2:29 am
@Celestino
Read my comments again Manang Celestino. Where did I mention that I am American? I said What’s so bad about English anyway? Why are you in America if you don’t like the language?
Naks naman ah, proud na proud pa po si manang na nasa Tate sya! Nakupo!
You really have class – a lady that has a foul mouth. I/we are trying to help Filipinos to acknowledge their shortfalls so that the country can rise up from its miserable conditions. The problem with people like you is you try to sugarcoat the situation in the country. Nanalo lang si Efren akala mo na eh everything is going to be ok. Please lang manang, there is so much work to be done and it has to start by changing the attitude of the people who keep the country from moving forward. You are not helping by being a triumphalist and being in denial.
There is nothing wrong with accepting our shortfalls or pagkukulang. No matter how you try and hide it, the people outside the Philippines, the international community, will also find out because the country is still so miserable. Just a continuous rainfall can flood and put the whole country in chaos. Don’t you think that people won’t ask why this kind of thing happens?
You are being a racist because you don’t even know anything about Hsing Tao and what he does for our society. You’re not even sure if he owns a company that employs a lot of Filipinos or if he is a philanthropist himself.
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Chino F Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 4:05 am
One who says “most Filipinos are lazy” is not a racist. They’re just criticizing the Filipinos. Like in the Bible, a Cretan said, “Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons!” (Titus 1:12)
The Filipino who says “look at Efren, if he is so great, then we’re so great!” can be termed a racist. This is because of over-exaltation of one’s race. Ethic arrogance, one term for it. And that is racism.
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Chino F Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Whoops… Ethnic arrogance, not ethic, sorry.
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…and Ilda, It was CNN that has given Efren the HONOR as being their HERO. You confused the term Saint and Hero; they are not quite the same, okey?
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benign0 Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 2:24 am
Nah. CNN just provided the voting system. Pinoys “gave honour” to Penaflorida by mounting “24 hour voting marathons”. Kung baga, it was Pinoys who honoured their own kind and voted for Penaflorida on the basis of his ETHNICITY.
Tsk tsk.
Pinoy nga naman talaga,
Parang aso
Matangkad lang kapag naka-upo.
[For the full version of the above piece of poetry, click here]
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ilda Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 2:39 am
The term is just for CNN’s own publicity.
Sabi ko nga sayo, use the same energy you put into making Efren win to call for the government to upgrade the education system in our country instead.
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Homer… I agree sonny… you are another loser like some of your counrty men…( slave mentality)
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homer Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 3:21 am
Hey Celestiti,
I knew you’d reply with something illogical. No surprise there.
I’m not gonna join the mob. They”ll do a better job of putting you in your (low) place. Besides, in believing that Noynoy will bring change to this country, you’ve already exposed yourself to be a complete waste of time…and a jerk.
Now go ahead and do what’s expected…save face (in your case, it’s an ugly one).
…And please, learn to spell COUNTRY. Mahiya ka naman! You should be deported.
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BongV Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 5:22 am
slave mentality… like tenants in Hacienda Luisita you mean?
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I’m flabbergasted that the Philippines have: Ilda; benignno; and hing shut, as long as there are semi-communists like you people, Philippines shall always suffer setbacks. No way, the government will be able to freely feel the happiness of emancipation from being slave— HYPOCRITES!
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ilda Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 2:57 am
As long as there are Filipinos like you who think there is nothing wrong with the attitude of the Filipinos in general, walang mang-yayari sa atin. Hindi mag-babago ang situation sa bansa.
Have a nice day
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Kimberly V. Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 2:58 am
Grabe nga sir, no? Sobra na talaga sila.
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BongV Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 9:38 am
celestino:
how can they be semi-communists when they advocate capitalist-oriented, market-driven options, including removing the pro-oligarch protectionist provisions of the 1987 Cory Constitution?
those are the conditions which keep most filipinos as slaves.
that – Ilda; benignno; and hing shut are advocating the removal of these conditions means they are advocating the removal of the slave mindset among filipinos.
do you celestino actually do not want to change the constitution and keep the filipinos in the slavery mindset?
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Celestino is a slave because only slaves will need Penaflorida.
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Kanto boy Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Celestino N. is also a slave to young attractive women on facebook. ha ha ha ha ha!
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Hey, Homer, you are perfect in your spelling, you never acknowledge “typho errors,” very little thing you notices. You never notices yourself. I got news for you pal: Celestiti which you truly mean that I have the man’s sexual organ, at least I know where to use it, to you all that are ****ers of your own people; you couldn’t feel the true effect of having a true well emancipated mind ’cause deep within the core of your “THOUGHT PERCEPTION” lies a simple block which keeps negativity dwell in your own individuality: THAT MONSTER IS,”EMANCIPATION THINKING.” You still think and act like slave even if Americans have given you freedom long time ago. Return back to dark caves to search your true identity, and comeout with both hands ready to meet the wonder of your world. Hence: Importance of recovering of who you really are would benefit in providing you with, “EMANCIPATION THRU THINKING.”
You possibly don’t need to stumble in dark underground chambers, your man NoyNoy maybe able to carry you by your soft hands and take you to “short cuts” which won’t require you great mischiefs. At this present moment you MORON, even the Chinese can call you “SLAVE” you bag full of ****in’ DIRT.
HSing ****(pain in the ass) get back to your hole full of KAKA !
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Kanto boy Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Wow, you’re worse than me, celestino. ha ha ha ha ha!
You’re from Washington, right? I think I saw you hitting on a girl in cyberspace.
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celestino Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
I came to this site full of positive infos which relates to Efren’s grand achievement of hope for the Pinoy young kids and gratitudes from the Filipinos which made it possible. But they injected me with plain manures they learned from their old fashioned teachers in their learning institution where they came from.
Made me feel better in providing them with a small piece of my mind—so to speak.
You have the wrong guy, your perception of me “hitting on a girl in cyberspace” was deceptive. I may have given a feeling of me hitting on her, but actually, I just wanted to be of “not a bore” in the chat session.
Hey, I didn’t mean to frustrate anyone in any of my responses, I guess, I get myself in a situation where pride of being a Philippine born Pinoy sometime gets in the way.
I was born in Cavite City where Efren came from and was so full of pride upon reading about his accomplishment.
I realized as well that his prize embarrased the Philippine government, well I just wanted to erase that off my mind and just enjoy its outcome (no matter what) for the kids that really need the primary education.
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ilda Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
@Celestino
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Sometimes, we just get frustrated when we feel like we can’t get through to someone. We all love the Philippines. Actually, it’s so obvious that occasionally, the one’s who are abroad are the ones who are more passionate about the country.
It’s okay to vent your spleen once in a while. This is the best way to let out all the frustration that we have been keeping to ourselves all these years. We just have to point our anger to the right direction and that is to the people who keep voting for public officials who are not doing their job and the latter who take away all the people’s money. Just don’t point your anger to the GetRealists. We are all happy for Efren and his work, it’s just that, we have to find a more sustainable solution to the problem and not rely on donations to solve it.
This coming presidential election is a good opportunity for everyone to scrutinize the candidates who want the job. If you say that you prefer Noynoy to be the president, it is my opinion that you still need to ask him for his platform just to make sure that he has any concrete to do list for the next six years. CEO’s don’t get hired for their looks you know. They get the top job because of their qualifications and because they have a plan and promise to bring in the big bucks. I don’t see why filling up the highest position in the land should be any easier. Rather, presidential candidates should go through a more rigorous selection criteria if you ask me.
If you have a candidate’s platform, you have some kind of promissory note to use against him if he doesn’t perform well and this will be your basis in kicking him out, firing him or asking for his resignation.
Hsing Tao Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Celestito, like most Pinoys you need to ride on to the “pride” of people like Efren because you have nothing about yourself to be proud of.
BabyFats Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Sir Celestino,
Ako po Sir, taga-probinsya po ako (Bocaue, Bulacan) at nag-aaral po ako ng PT sa Fatima. Originally po tulad ko po kayo, proud na proud to be Pinoy kasi po yun po lagi ang dinidiin sa amin sa school at sa TV. Puro “Beam, Proud to be Pinoy.” Na-brainwash po ako. Pero ngayong nasa college po ako at napaisip ako na dapat matututo na po akong mag-isip ng malaya, inanalyze ko po ang situation. At mukhang mahirap po talaga maging proud sa pagiging Pinoy kasi medyo kulelat po ang Pilipinas at kulelat ang mga Pilipino dito sa Pilipinas mismo.
Ang pagkapanalo ni Sir Efren ay maganda pong pangyayari, pero naman Sir mukha ngang pinilit natin ‘to dahil sa school po, maraming nag-campaign na mag-vote ng maraming beses sa cnn website. Kaya po may pagka flying-voter nga ang kalabasan.
Kaya po Sir, hindi po ako ganun ka saya nung nanalo si Sir Efren kasi po masyadong pinilit eh. Ok lang sana kung isang tao, isang boto, pero marami po talagang nag-vote ng maraming beses. Ako nga po mismo ginawa ko rin yun kaya parang nahihiya po ako sa ginawa ko.
Sir, mas maganda po sana kung gumanda ang Pilipinas dahil nagpakatino ang mga Pilipino. Tayo kasi pong Pinoy masyado tayong emotional at mahilig sa happy-happy. Di tayo tulad ng mga Intsik na talagang tutok sa pag-aaral kaya nga sila po ang nagmamay-ari sa Pilipinas eh. E ito nga pong mga Aquino at mga Cojuangco mga dugong Intsik sila kasi ang kanilang ninuno ay masipag kaya naging mayaman at nakabili ng malaking lupa. Tayong mga Pilipino, matagal na tayo sa Pilipinas, bakit ba tayo nauunahan ng mga Intsik, at bakit sila ang nagiging may-ari ng maraming bagay sa atin? Bunga po siguro ito ng kanilang kasipagan at sa kabilang banda, sa sobrang katamaran ng maraming katutubong Pinoy.
Nakakahiya po talaga. Kasi kung titingnan po natin, puro mga may dugong banyaga at dugong Intsik ang mga mayayaman sa Pilipinas. Tapos kung meron mang purong-Pilipino na mayaman, mga pulitiko lang pala sila na nangungurakot, imbes na businessman sila na magaling sa pera.
Kaya po mahirap maging proud sa pagiging Pinoy kung talagang iisipin natin ng mabuti. Sa tingin ko Sir, kung aminin nating mga Pilipino na kailangan nating magbago dahil masama po ang katamaran at iba pang masasamang ugali ng mga Pilipino, siguro po uunlad tayo.
Pero kung sa pag-aamin pa lang ng ating mga mali ay di po natin magawa, mukhang di po talaga tayo uunlad. Maiiwan po ang Pilipinas habang uunlad ang lahat ng mga singkit, sama na roon ang mga Instik, Koryano, at Hapon.
Sana umunlad tayong mga Pilipino, sana aminin muna nating mga Pinoy ang ating mga mali upang na tayo’y magbago. At doon lang talaga tayo uunlad.
BongV Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 11:53 am
that would be the 93% who shoot themselves in the foot and have foot in mouth disease.
you are barking at the wrong tree
Slave’s were not given freedom, THEY struggled, and WON.
You should take your advice and return to your cave.
Your emancipation depends on what you are thinking. Whether you want to continue with the pro-oligarch anti-foreign investor 1987 Constitution or not. Where do you stand on the matter?
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Hsing Tao Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
You are a slave because you need to be emancipated by Efren Penaflorida “Heroes”. We, on the other hand, have no need for such things.
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Kanto boy Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:44 am
He needs to emancipate himself from the lure of young beautiful women who are the age of his granddaughter… Diba, Celestino N?
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Mr Celestino, actually you make a big first step by acknowledging that “pride of being a Philippine born Pinoy sometime gets in the way”.
Sometimes pride is an insidious hindrance to progress as it prevents us from taking a realistic regard for our strengths and limitations. Sometimes the “strengths” we see are actually weaknesses (such as how we point out here that Penaflorida’s “heroism” actually reflects the utter weakness of Pinoy society). And when we go through life or (say, on a national scale) undertake a development program underpinned by a misguided sense of self, the results are more often than not disappointing.
As I keep saying:
The Philippines is the result of lots of action underpinned by very little thinking.
Add to the above very little reflection.
We keep stumbling from one mistake to another, one crisis to another, one DISASTER after another and hardly learn anything that we effectively apply to our future prospects.
What does that say about us?
Perhaps we have an absolutely mistaken and misguided notion of ourselves as a people. It is evident in the way we celebrate Penaflorida’s “heroism” is. In fact, he is now being used as just another dumb celebrity in various politicians’ campaigns (refer to this article for some insight into this development).
And the real disaster here is that we have framed our entire politics and even our whole outlook towards our future as a nation around that flawed sense of self.
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Seems like the kinds of education that were provided to all of you were defected. Are you saying that the entire mass needs to be re-educated concerning the way Goverment is handled? Forget about pride then push for a strong Amendment in the Constitution that will guarantee Government Support for Re-Education. Don’t you think it’s the only solution to the existing problems?
The repeating problems in the way the Government Leaders have been managing these menaces are parallel to a spinning wheel, where they tumble and turn inside this receptacle. THEY CAN ONLY BE ELIMINATED IF ALL THE PEOPLE ARE GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO EFFECTIVELY RUN THE GOVERNMENT; it can be accomplished only if little children in kindergarten school and up — all the way to college level– can be given specific Course on how the government continuing problems be solved ( It’s a hell of a good start, dont’ you think so?)
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Hsing Tao Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Nobody likes to read what you write. Your writing is bad and incoherent.
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ilda Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
@Celestino
It’s hard to tell if you’re still angry:
Did you mean defective? If your answer is yes, why do you say so?
I do agree that we need to inculcate the right discipline at a very young age.
First though, the grown ups need to vote for the right leader who will lead the country to its recovery and provide the right education for everyone.
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Hsing Tao Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
He does not even know the difference between defective and defected. Therefore, it is Celestino’s education that is defective.
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Kanto boy Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Maybe he means “defecate?” Ha ha ha ha ha!
Or “decaffeinated?”
ilda Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 4:14 am
yes, that’s what I meant, there was a defect, and HSING **** was feeling superfluously gay(ful) all of a sudden . Shows the defecting defect of his education—TYPICAL CHINABOY (TOO MUCH TEA ENHACED W/ CAFFEINE).
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Hsing Tao Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
But you used the wrong word so you have a defect. It is better to drink tea than to be like you who drinks TUBA.
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Bakunawa Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Naku, ang sarap ng tuba ano?
Anyways, I have been lurking these past few days on the website, and I appreciate all of you for giving light on important issues, particularly on politics and Filipino culture.
Btw, ang point nila Mr. Celestino, is that the “defective” is the correct word there, not “defected.” Defected is defined as having forsaken a party and going to another, gaya ng mga rebeldeng bumaba sa bukid o mga spy ng KGB na pumunta sa Amerika. Defective, ‘yun yung may defect na sinasabi mo.
Sa totoo lang, dapat ngang mahiya ang gobyerno, lalo na ang DepEd, sa pagkapanalo ni Kuya Efren. Biruin mo, kinailangan pa ng taong nagkakariton ng libro at iba pang studying materials para mapag-aral ang mga kapus-palad na mga kabataan. Tsk. tsk.
Kuya Efren, saludo ako sa ginawa mo. Sana lang, wag kang magpagamit sa mga politiko. Ipagpatuloy mo lang ang programa mo, o kaya turuan mo ang DepEd magtulak ng kariton.
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Hsing Tao Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Oo dapat si Celestino hiramin yung English grammar and spelling book doon sa Kariton.
Hsing Tao Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Si Celestino ay KGB. Kung Gabi Bakla.
tsinoy ako, pinoy tayo, ipakita sa mundo! Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Celestino you are such a racist! Why do you take it upon us tsinoys? How do you even know that Hsing Tao is full-blooded Chinese? He might be a Filipino who likes kungfu and wushu for all you know. But you know, Celestino, you totally proved your racism.
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You’ll never know what racism means till you’ve been here in the states, and you know what else you need besides education? It’s opening up and being truthful; this word shall make one free because righteousness follow them, and they are not fearful as well. Hey China Boy, GO **** YOURSELF or eat **** and die— you sick duck.
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ilda Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 12:03 am
@Celestino
At least there’s a law against racism in the US unlike the Phils. People get prosecuted there if found guilty of the crime. In the Philipppines, Filipinos often make fun of Chinese people and call them names like Intsik beho and the Indians are called Bumbay and get away with it.
When I was a kid, I thought it was normal to hear people make fun of the physically and mentally disabled people until I learned that it is actually discrimination. Filipinos make fun of other people for different things like kung mahaba ang baba mo, ang tawag sayo babalu You don’t hear of such things in other countries, it’s only in the Philippines!
I know what racism and discrimination means. It’s when someone thinks that I don’t have any credibility to write a critique about my own country because I am not famous and I am not from an international organization. Filipinos will only think what I say is believable if I’m a famous actress or movie star or if I come from a famous clan like the Aquinos. Maybe I should work with CNN.
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homer Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 4:03 am
Marunong ka pa. I called you Celestiti simply because you’re a dick.
May mga pinoy diyan…..nakaapak lang sa America, akala mo na kung sino.
“you never acknowledge “typho errors,” very little thing you notices. You never notices yourself.”
—Uhhh, ok. I noticeS your grammar sucks too.
“You’ll never know what racism means till you’ve been here in the states.”
—Oh, really? You’re now an authority on racism because you’re in the states?
This time, I’m calling you Celestae cuz you’re full of ****.
Hey, don’t come in here like gangbusters and EMOTE for the wrong reasons!!! NO ONE here was putting down Efren, but you got REALLY stupid and made all sorts of conclusions about the site and the people on it. For that, you deserve all the brickbats headed your way. I suggest you dig a grave for your STUPID pride and take time to understand what the site is all about before you make the wrong conclusions and look worse than you already do. If you can’t comprehend that, ask Efren to teach you how to read.
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ilda Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 4:14 am
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Kanto boy Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 8:25 am
As I said, this guy named Celestino N. was actually hitting on this young chick on Facebook. Grabe, he was acting like he was some kind of ladies’ man… But you know, he actually looks like a D.O.M.
Well, now we know he doesn’t look like one. He IS one! (Worse than me)
Cos he is a Dirty Old MOUTH!
Ha ha ha ha!
Cradle-snatcher na nga, ang bastos-bastos pa ng salita rito. Not that I’m a saint myself, but you know, this Celestino N. guy is a f*cking RACIST who keeps picking on Hsing Tao, just because the name sounds Chinese.
Celestino N., you know, Hsing Tao might just be a kastilaloy or an indio who like kung fu or wushu, and uses a “Chinese-sounding” handle. But your racism made you ASSUME that he’s Chinese.
Now you’re attacking the Chinese with your unfairly racist comments.
Tsk tsk tsk.
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Ray Rodriguez Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Talaga? Dirty old man si Celestino? Tsk tsk tsk… nakakahiya ka naman Celestino. Kay tanda tanda mo na humihirit ka pa sa mga bata sa Facebook. Kaya pala atat na atat ka magkaroon ng Penaflorida para maisalba ang sarili mong walang kakuwenta kuwenta eh.
Ray Rodriguez Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 8:25 am
I am in the US and have never really been discriminated against. It is only people like Celestino who are idiot, of course they get discriminated but not because of their race, it is because they are idiots.
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Celestino needs to lighten up and watch Rusell Peters
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We are true to ourselves here w/ lots of pride. If you think we are stupid that’s where you are mistaken, we make mistakes, we can take ‘em, ’cause men are men, and women are women over here. The truth sucks but to many of us , it is a weapon we use against people who are filled with KAKA and whose favorite words are: secret-secret; nakakahiya; bakit ganoon siya; naku mali ang spelling niya at ang sentence niya. Now, you tell me who are idiots. Stop pretending to be intelligent and start helping your own, you have long way to go before you can taste true blessings from GOD. Bunch of LOW-DOWN DOGS’ no wonder why lots of people don’t even want to bother to stop-by this site. Many of you in this site are either liers, tamad, bobo, drunk. And I’m here teaching you bastards how to improve and sway away from being ignorant.
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BongV Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:48 am
celestino:
this has got nothing to do with believing (or not believing) which ones are being GOD, or dogs or bastards – the issue is Pinoys as a society have not voted for leaders who invest in education thus they need an Efren to divert the issue from the collective bro hahaha.
DO YOU AGREE THAT Pinoys as a society have not voted for leaders who invest in education
DO YOU DISAGREE THAT Pinoys as a society have not voted for leaders who invest in education
Let’s make this simple – AGREE? DISAGREE?
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Hsing Tao Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:03 am
You cannot teach us. You only learn from us.
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So Bong what’s the big deal, the video didn’t tell me anything except for the fact that the indian looking individual (who’s a comedian) was making fun of us. It didn’t bother me whatsoever, did it bother you? (Indians from India have people all over the world, like Flips, do menial jobs as well.)
You people over there still looks at rich ones as being GOD? Aren’t we all created equal? Why do you exceedingly respect the rich so much? Because the many don’t have any to show or the poor can’t live an acceptable living? Yah, you people do have problems indeed.
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BongV Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:47 am
celestino:
who’s YOU? are you referring to me when you say looks at rich ones being GOD? if you were, i’d say i disagree and i wonder how you came up with such a conclusion?
this has got nothing to do with believing (or not believing) which ones are being GOD – the issue is Pinoys as a society have not voted for leaders who invest in education thus they need an Efren to divert the issue from the collective bro hahaha.
DO YOU AGREE THAT Pinoys as a society have not voted for leaders who invest in education
DO YOU DISAGREE THAT Pinoys as a society have not voted for leaders who invest in education
Let’s make this simple – AGREE? DISAGREE?
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Hsing Tao Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Celestino, I am your god. Bow down to me.
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Kanto boy Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Celestino N,
You’re another stupid idiot who misses the point. Russel Peters is making fun of BOTH HIS OWN PEOPLE (the Indians) and Filipinos, without insulting both. It’s his job as a comedian to make people laugh.
Also, what the **** is this “look at rich ones being God?!?!?” What the ****? Where exactly does BongV say anything about this?
Before you judge others, look at yourself first, you Dirty Old Man!
****ing hitting on a young girl who’s young enough to be your GRAND-DAUGHTER. What the ****?!?
And don’t deny it you miserable sh!t-head! I saw what you did on Facebook. Gross!!!
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Hsing Tao Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Celestino is a “Bangus na bilasa na” and also GAYOT NA. What a shame he hits on a young girl.
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Kanto boy Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:47 am
He was even insinuating online about spending a night with her, what a dirty old man! Terrible. Yuck!
Lolo papatol sa kanyang apo! Yeeeeeeeaaaaack!!!!!
Hsing Tao Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Tsk tsk tsk… akala naman niya papatol sa kanya yun? Sa itsura pa lang ni Celestino di ka na mabibilib eh.
Bakunawa Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Siguro kung congressman siya, papatol yung babae. Kung hindi, ipakidnap niya sa mga alaga nya, tapos halayin.
Hey, kanto boy, cavitenos are tougher than tondo bunch of gay sucking bastards. Don’t you remember dummy? After I ****ed her, I made you suck the last drop of my cum.
Hsing ****, you speak Tagalog, you **** eating sick duck, you’d lie to your lesbian mommy ( if you have one, that’s normal) for a cup of tea laced with opium.
BongV, you surely surprised the **** out of me, I thought you were a fellow Caviteno
who’s smart enough to realize that if your lower government leader doesn’t want to act on something significant, you can go to the press and demand that you want an action. But you ****ers have a habit of killing your press people, and you, BongV, is scared as hell to match Efren’s capability to make some differences.
The point is, Efren had the guts to show you bunch of sickos— including Gloria, another sick bitch— that you all couldn’t send your young kids for a basic / incipient education. The entire world knows that peasants outnumber the rich which you bow onto and treat as GOD.
Hey, Bakunawa, I don’t come to them, they come to me for satisfaction.
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ilda Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Can someone please remove this comment? Some of the statements don’t have any relevance anymore to the topic of this article.
There are women and children reading this too.
Can we go back to having intellectual discussions please?
Thank you.
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benign0 Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Hey Celestino, we tolerate some profanity here because we’re not a bunch of politically-correct wusses. But I think you cross the line when you make use of unnecessary sexual references.
You fancy yourself as some kind of Caviteno male meister. But when you make such kinds of remarks, you come across as just another insecure moron and actually highlight much of the underbelly of the primitivist Pinoy psyche that you try in vain to sugarcoat here.
Furthermore, your use of phrases like “fellow Caviteno”, your obvious prejudice against Chinese people, and your slurs against homosexuals reveal your true nature as a backward-thinking Pinoy version of Caucasian rednecks. Tough luck big boy from Cavite. Your attempts to look tough merely make you look even smaller than the flawed self-image you seem to harbour in your little mind.
With every word you post here, you merely highlight the very points we make.
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celestino Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
So what are you tring to do, trying to scare people that you can scare them off with your heavy unscrupulous undirected version of your unprincipled mind? I read you article fag-boy, no direction, but full of uncomprehensible and vague TRASH. The school where you came from literally ****ed with your mind: IN OTHER WORDS; YOU ARE FULL OF IT, LIKE THE REST OF YOUR BUDDIES HERE AT THIS SITE. I CAN READ THE PICTURE YOU SENT, IT’S MOVING UP AND DOWN, LIKE SOMEONE BEHIND YOU WITH HIS BIG DICK UP YOUR STINKIN’ ASS HOLE: **** YOU VERY VERY MUCH.~LOL~ .
P.S. Is ilda your mom? Is she a faggot like you?
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ilda Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
I thought you were a fan of Efren? He won’t be happy with the kind of words you are using right now. Tsk-tsk.
You are one piece of work. The more profanities you use, the more people will see what kind of Filipino you are. You are just a sad, sad man Mr Celestino.
SmarterThanHugh Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Celestino, calm down. Pusod mo. Every single moronic statement you make digs you a deeper hole. Hopefully someday a tv program will help you reunite with your parents who disowned you for violating livestock, and televiewers can text in their votes on whether you can be given the prize cosmetic surgery to fix that face even a mother couldn’t love.
Kanto boy Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Celestino Nick (kaano ano mo si Santa Claus?), need I remind you that you are a Dirty Old Man and I saw it with my own eyes that you were hitting on a young girl.
Grabe ka, you even insinuated something about sleeping with her at night. Man that girl is very young and judging from the kulubut picture, you are old enough to be her grandfather!
Nagwawala ka rito, alam mo may screenshot ako ng mga kamanyakan mo sa batang babae eh. Gusto mo post ko rito?
Diegong Bayong Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Kaming mga taga Tondo ay niluluhuran ninyong mga taga Cavite. Sige nga at sabihin mo ang sinabi mo sa GAGALANGIN at tingnan natin kung ilang piraso ka lalabas doon UTUTINO.
Mahiya hiya ka naman sa balat mo CELESTINO UTUTINO. Kuluntoy na ang putotoy mo at kahit kumain ka pa ng Viagra ng parang M & M ay wala ka nang pag asa. Amoy lupa ka na tanda. Ang masasatisfy mo na lang ay ang sarili mo. Ungas! TONDO RULES! Caviteno’s masters are the men of TONDO.
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Tsk tsk, Mr. Celestino. You came here on a self-proflaimed mission to talk some sense into what you thought were a bunch of people out to slander Da Pinoy.
And here you are ending up actually epitomising everything that is wrong with Da Pinoy.
As to my sexual orientation and as to what my relationship is with anyone else in this forum that you seem to believe are “out to get you” (btw, paranoia is a symptom of schitzophrenia), here is my usual tagline:
Keep on guessing.
Perhaps step back a bit and reflect on what you are doing here.
With every word you post here, you merely highlight everything people like me point out about Da Pinoy Condition.
Do you consider yourself a Pinoy? A Caviteno? Or a self-described Red-blooded Male?
Because it’s starting to get less clear to me.
And by the way:
You like?
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celestino Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
so, you’re thanking me now for helping you and your screwed up buddies reveal how mentally disturbed Pinoys are, in this way, your rotten politicians can change the Educational System. You need some highly qualified teachers for the job. Do what Japan does, import from other country like the USA, your people like the Americans anyway.
I’m ready buddy whatever you throw at me, I hope they are too. Oh…. you are threatening me too. with what…. with your hazy obscure wrecked sentiment?
I consider myself an American VET.
Your Boy Friend behind you is complaining,you’re too loose down there, he wants you to suck him off.
LOL and more…. shameful BASTARD!!!!
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Diegong Bayong Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Ikaw ang mentally disturbed gago. Nangmamanyak ka ng mga batang babae eh amoy lupa ka na TANDA.
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Just for the info of everyone, ang mga Caviteno takot yan sa taga Tondo. Si Ututino Celestino wala nang ibubuga yang kuluntoy na yan. Amoy lupa na yang si tanda.
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Indeed, Mr Celestino. You are doing the job for us. With every sentiment of yours that you spell out here with that appalling grammar you apply and with every rude sexual reference you make, you simply reveal the dark underbelly of the Pinoy psyche that leaves its mark in just about every catastrophe that befalls the hapless lot known as “the Philippines”.
You even bring shame to your veteran buddies (if indeed you are actually one of them) by calling yourself an “American Vet”. No true soldier exhibits the behaviour you demonstrate here.
Tough luck, gramps.
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you don’t even know what a VET is. Your mind is so messed up.
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Borat Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
It is your mind that is messed up. Learn grammar and how to spell.
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celestino Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
are you somekind of a professor? or just a regular wanna be?
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Kanto boy Reply:
December 12th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
And you are a child-molester, right Celestino Nicolas Jr? Talking to little girl K about turning off the lights when you sleep with her? Bastos!!
Dirty
Old
Man
benign0 Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
You make a claim that I don’t know what a vet is, but then you offer no clarifications around what the concept means to you in precise terms.
Up to the challenge, gramps?
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celestino Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
see what I mean? I get critized for little ****in’ grammar which is not really important for this kind of mode. Then how come your article was written as though the writer was an alien from outer space? It was so vague without direction.
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Kanto boy Reply:
December 12th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Bobo ka kasi e. Bastos pa. Hitting on a little girl. Yuck!
benign0 Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Two points, gramps:
(1) Some people consider grammar important.
(2) Then there are people (like you, Mr Celestino) who consider sexual orientation important in discussions like these.
Which one of the above two points do you think is a more sensible position to take?
Think and reflect a bit on the above question, gramps, and let me know if and when a major brainwave hits you.
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BenK Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
A Caviteno, huh? I live in Cavite, I was going to suggest a meet-up. I didn’t realize you were referring to the little-known Cavite neighborhood of Olympia, Washington, however.
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You are definitely a sicko which your own politicians won’t even waste their time.
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benign0 Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Not as sicko as someone who thinks nothing of making really graphic sexual references (with the intent to slur homosexuals) in a forum like this, Mr. “American Vet“.
What exactly did you fight for during the war, gramps? Perhaps you should refresh your memory a bit. It may be failing with age…
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BenK Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Although I’m sure Mr. Evergreen State wouldn’t admit, you’ll find that, at least among American veterans, the ones who make the biggest deal about their service (usually in discussions in which it is totally irrelevant) are the ones who fought valiantly for keeping potatoes peeled, or keeping the file cabinet properly alphabetised, or battled fiercely to always answer the Colonel’s phone before the third ring.
The US military attracts a lot of losers. For a lot of them, it helps them learn some personal discipline, how to work with others, find some direction in their lives, so they come out a better person and make something successful of themselves. Then you’ve got the ones like Mr. Celestino Nicolas, Jr. who weren’t worth a **** to begin with, and didn’t even come up to the low bar set by the military to want the service to keep them around.
You’d better watch your mouth, Celestino. There’s a half dozen American veterans (you know, the kind whose jock you always sweated when you were in, the guys that actually know what it’s like to get shot at), who’ve now taken an interest in your endlessly inappropriate comments (thanks to me telling them to check it out — you’re welcome), guys who actually live here and know a damn sight more than you do about this country, and who are starting to get a mite annoyed with your attitude. How they might express their annoyance is no affair of mine.
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Animal Mother Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Animal Mother: Celestino, you seen much com-bat?
Celestino: I’ve seen some on… TV.
You are one of them Pinoy ass holes with a CRAB MENTALITY; selfish beast. You’d get what you deserve, some of these days. Mark my ****i’n word, and I hope to God the CIA reads this.
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benign0 Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
I don’t think the CIA will think too kindly of your using the words “American Vet” together with the kind of profanity and sexual references you make here in this blog, Mr Celestino.
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Cavite Intelligence Agency Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Celestino, this is the CIA (Cavite Intelligence Agency) looking for you. Tama na ang pag mamanyak mo sa mga kabataang Pilipina dahil baka mabugbog ka lang ng mga taga Tondo.
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Kanto boy Reply:
December 12th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Well, you Celestino are the epitome of KAMANYAKAN and cradle snatching.
Kay tanda-tanda mo na, kulubot ka pa, tapos papatol ka sa 23 year old na babae on Facebook… Kadiri ka!!!
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Let’s summarise so far what I believe is something you may have learned from your time here, Mr Celestino.
You are, as you claim, an American Veteran who presumably fought on the side of righteousness during one of those great wars against the Forces of Darkness. You also seem to be of senior age, though your demeanour here does not necessarily make you an elder.
In essence you, Mr Celestino, epitomise the convoluted psyche of a person brought up in a culture that monumentally struggled with an identity that’s been pulled in many directions by the influence of colonial masters whose mere presence provided a stark contrast between what it means to be a socially- and commercially-successful society and, well, that of what the indigenous Filipino can muster together to call an “achievement”.
Furthermore, as a person who supposedly fought on the side of the Free World, your inability to respect the aspect of a discussion that falls within a person’s private prerogatives (such as their sexual preferences and orientation) that are within the individual rights of each person to enjoy by virtue of their guaranteed freedoms (which you, gramps, fought for) brings to doubt the validity of your claim to the title “American Vet“. More basic than that, your use of foul language in the presence of some commentors here who are obviously female (some of them even seem to be ladies as well) also brings to doubt the true soundness of your masculinity.
Observe how all of the above were gleaned just by reading the comments you make here, Mr Celestino.
As I mentioned earlier:
With every word you post here, you merely highlight everything people like me point out about Da Pinoy Condition.
Real class job you’ve delivered so far, gramps.
Look forward to more of those wisdoms that your advanced years have bestowed upon your little mind.
Note the above. You like?
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Seriously folks.
Does anyone really ****ing care who the CNN HERO OF THE YEAR IS?
Its not like the Goddamn Nobel Prize now is it?
Efren Peñaflorida will be forgotten sooner than you think.
See you at Starbucks
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ilda Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 1:10 am
Conyo
Sorry to say, you are wrong here. Presidential candidates will milk Efren for the opportunity to ride on his popularity. I doubt if people will forget him so quickly. You will be seeing him dancing on stage and maybe, a possible singing contract. Just watch out for him. You might just see him on the big screen one day
I sincerely hope he doesn’t let all this get into his head.
Ta-ta
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Conyo Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 1:17 am
Ilda,
Efren Peñaflorida The Movie? Starring Aga Mulach?
OMG. That is a scary thought. But that movie might be sooo bad… that it would be good.
See you at Starbucks
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Hsing Tao Reply:
December 12th, 2009 at 9:56 am
With the stupidity and predictability of Pinoys I am sure the movie would be a big hit. I better propose this to my friend Lily and we can produce that together and profit while making the Pinoys more stupid in the process.
Friend Reply:
December 12th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
A movie depicting Jun Lozada becoming a holier-than-thou martyr against the ultra-evil Arroyo administration will probably rake-in big big money for Carlo J. Caparas. Pinoys are suckers for stuff like that.
benign0 Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 2:22 am
Or he could be another potential Jun Lozada. An over-exposed and commoditised “hero”.
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I truly know what you and your friends stand for, and that is to spread lies about your fellow Filipinos. I certainly doesn’t know what made you decide to put knives on their backs which can seriously damage their reputation once read by so many people especially employers of the affected ones.
You even place a picture on your responses as though you’re mocking me to attack. Like you’re trying to impart a message saying,” Come see if you can hit my face.” Calling me “gramps” like trying to tell me that your intelligence is more superior than mine. Your friend Benk even tries to induce unfriendly action by my ex-Brothers-in-Arms against me. You people surely are a nuisance to many individuals by provoking them to act negatively.
Another one that place a stimulating feeling towards me by wanting to meet him in a certain place, to see him face to face. Now, you tell me how would a person react once he’s provoked to something which would incite a negative thought and feeling within him.
My suggestion is to close this website because it will certainly incite more individuals into more unnecessary arguments that would damage the already affected reputation of many individuals.
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Conyo Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 1:54 am
Celestino,
Well what did you expect? A virtual MANO PO? Or perhaps a “po” and “opo” after every sentence?
You live in a different time my friend. Pulling rank doesn’t cut it anymore. Our minds are no longer constrained by old the traditions that our fathers once considered sacred. They tried shoving their silly beliefs down our throats and we puked it out.
Atheism is now sexy while Christians are now intolerant. Homosexuality is now a genetic predisposition, no longer a moral failing. There is nothing wrong about striving for WEALTH. Those Biblical verses on the virtue of Poverty are for LOSERS.
Welcome to the Age of Reason where FACTS rule. Don’t like GRAMPS? Then crawl back into the past and stay there.
See you at Starbucks
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BenK Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 2:01 am
You know, sometimes Conyo bugs me but I’ll back him up all the way on this one, because he’s just said it perfectly. If the truth hurts you too much, you have the choice to ignore it. It’s a stupid choice, but it’s your right to make it. Stay in whatever world you live in where it’s all rainbows and ponies, if you don’t like the ugly, smelly, painful one the rest of us have to live in.
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benign0 Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 2:24 am
Actually, gramps, you are the one who stained the good name of your “brothers-in-arms” by behaving the way you did here (slurring homosexuals and graphically describing lascivious sexual activities) and then proclaiming to all the world that you are an “American Vet”.
Tough luck, lolo.
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ilda Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 4:03 am
Talking to Manang Celestino is like talking to a brick wall. Actually, it’s better to talk to a real brick wall because a brick wall won’t utter incessant ramblings.
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Bakunawa Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 4:10 am
A well-built kariton can topple down that crumbling brick wall that is Celestino.
Celestino Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 4:19 am
Knowing my comrades better than you, I think , with their moderate intellect which surpass yours obviously, and the non-ending direct provocation you are still producing, without reasonable doubt, THEY ARE SURELY LAUGHING AT YOUR POSSIBLE BIG FAT ASS accordingly. You can however, GO TO HELL AS WELL! ….and that; little peasant, is a CHING-CHING.
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Filo Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Celestino, you seem to be reciting everything you’d like to believe so badly but couldn’t manage to convince even yourself. Perhaps some more fibre in the diet might ease the massive visceral tension experienced on a daily basis so you could make the most out of life. Always remember: Prune juice is only Plan A.
homer Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Hehehe…
There’s comedy gold in his last 2 replies if you read them again slowly.
Kanto boy Reply:
December 12th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Celestino is that lecherous prick who was trying to hit on a young girl (K) on Facebook. Couldn’t believe how brazen this KULUBUT old man’s attitude is. Ha ha ha ha ha!
Wanna fight, Cely?
homer Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
“Now, you tell me how would a person react once he’s provoked to something which would incite a negative thought and feeling within him.”
—Normally, a smart person would just let it go and walk away.
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Kanto boy Reply:
December 12th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Yeah Celestino, you’ve totally damaged your own reputation with your own stupid behavior on this site. Now, everyone remembers Celestino Nicole as the dirty old mouth who’s also a dirty old man who was hitting on a little girl, even insinuating that they “turn off the lights when he sleeps with her.” Sick old man that Celestino guy. Terrible.
Yuck!!
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Lolo!!!
Mano po! Kamusta na po kayo. Kain po kayo. Gusto niyo po ng istarbaks?
Po?
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BenK Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 5:15 am
Hindi pwedeng istarbaks. Dude obviously doesn’t need any caffeine.
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Special Report from the CIA (Cavite Intelligence Agency). There is no need to damage the reputation of Celestino because he is very good in damaging it himself.
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Mr. Celestino
I believe in your saying
If i were Efren , I wouldnt take part in that award and instead stay to my work.
Since he was awarded as “CNN HERO OF THE YEAR “, He’s been the talk of the town.
My goodness Mr. Efren whats next . Let me guess , “Efren for President ” my goodness.
My challeged for Mr. Penaflorida- Dumped that award and instead give it back to CNN
The only way to survive in this nation is to join Politics.
Face it ! Look at now in the philippines – “the most dangerous spot in the world ”
because of Ampatuan
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STATE OF RIZAL-51ST state of the US Reply:
December 12th, 2009 at 5:22 am
By the way Mr. Penaflorida is a member of “AKO MISMO” (I am willng to do it)
you should say this
“AKO MISMO ANG MAGBABALIK SA CNN ANG AWARD NA ITO AT MAGTUTULAK ULI AKO NG KARITON”
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Tingnan ninyo ang sinabi sa video ni Juana Change sa huli….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dexn_XwEOI
Akmang akma sa sinasabi ng author ng article na ito.
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“Rigged” is not the proper word to use if CNN has nothing to do with him winning but “Direct Cheating” would have been used if Pinoys all over the world fly voted.
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Pathetic talaga ng mga Pilipino. Nanalo lang si Penaflorida dahil sa pagiging sobrang atat at OA nila eh nag HYPE na agad.
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Well **** you too Ken.
I happen to share this author's opinion because it's really embarrassing to the rest of the world how each Pinoy who voted for Efren did so several times after being encouraged by Karen Davila on TV patrol to vote as many times as possible.
Get yourself a brain.
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BERRY BERRRY GOOT OBSERBISYON DAT ESCAPED MY KUKOTE.
Yeah, it was an on-line election. Flippers vote their own. Because only Flippers know who PinaFlorida is. Flippers are goot at this. Because they are the veterans of American Idol. Remember when there was a Pinay in American Idol all Flippers voted their own. I even received a text message to vote for that Pinay American idol.
HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!
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What perpetuates the problem regarding American Idol and PinaFlorida is the IDIOT PERYODISTAS. The coin-operated-obliviyosu-englischtzes-speaking PERYODISTAS. Nary a column about it. Nary a word about it.
RIGHT NOW THE VERY PROBLEM WE ARE FACING ARE THE IDIOT PERYODISTAS.
MANY MANHY THANKS TO AMPATUAN!!!!!!! AMPATUANIZE PERYODISTAS! NOW!
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