Intervention – Slapping a Nation In Denial
As a nation, we all agree that we want to soar. The question is do we have the wings to soar? How do we grow our wings so that we may soar? Otherwise, we will be in the too-familiar “failure-to-launch” syndrome. From time to time, we need to reexamine what we are doing and determine if we should still continue to be doing it. This examination allows us to have a clearer understanding of what our core aspirations are and what actions we are or must be taking to make our aspirations come true. As Stephen Covey’s observes (rightfully or wrongly) and to which I agree -- “Public behavior is merely private character writ large”. We need to remember that a sense of achievement -- or what we often refer to as pride springs from the day-to-day actions we take and the choices we make.
What achievements do we have to show for as a nation? Asia’s Laggard, The Sick Man of Asia, A Nation of Servants, One of the Most Corrupt ASEAN Countries, The Deadliest Country For Journalists -- Do you really want to kumbaya or do you want to get out of this slippery slope we are on? We were not hit by the recession -- with good reason -- because there was nothing to hit in the first place! The Philippine economy is at rock bottom. Yes, the economy is be growing, from the bottom of the barrel to just slightly above the bottom of the barrel. Yes, the economy is growing but the population is growing at rate higher than we can provide jobs, schools, and infrastructure. We want investors to come and yet we have a protectionist constitution. We want to present ourselves as a modern nation yet we manage and develop our public infrastructure incompetently. We want peak performance and we elect slackers. 
What gives? What’s going on? Someone has to step on the brakes and say… HOLD IT.. STOP IT.. THIS IS NOT RIGHT! WE ARE HEADED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION -- WE ARE DOING THE SAME THINGS AND EXPECTING THE SAME RESULTS. How many times have I seen a friend or family member in a disastrous relationship -- emotional, business, personal which led them to losing their house, losing their savings, being stuck in debt. I as a friend, believe have the obligation to tell my friend the truth nasty as it may sound -- for one purpose, to snap out of the destructive behavior and move on, otherwise I wouldn’t be a friend. But, as you and I know -- that’s easier said than done. I have to be there, I have to catch my friend when he/she falls, I have to cheer them on in their moments of triumph, and when they need it -- a reality check. And when they are in denial, intervention, even. I know my friend will do the same for me -- otherwise, he/she is not being a true friend to me.
What is Denial?
Changingminds.org provides a concise summary of denial
Denial is simply refusing to acknowledge that an event has occurred. The person affected simply acts as if nothing has happened, behaving in ways that others may see as bizarre.
In its full form, it is totally subconscious, and sufferers may be as mystified by the behavior of people around them as those people are by the behavior of the sufferers. It may also have a significant conscious element, where the sufferer is simply ‘turning a blind eye’ to an uncomfortable situation.
Example
- A man hears that his wife has been killed, and yet refuses to believe it, still setting the table for her and keeping her clothes and other accoutrements in the bedroom.
- A person having an affair does not think about pregnancy or sexually transmitted diseases.
- People take credit for their successes and find ‘good reason’ for their failures, blaming the situation, other people, etc.
- Alcoholics vigorously deny that they have a problem.
- Optimists deny that things may go wrong. Pessimists deny they may succeed.
Discussion
Denial is a form of repression, where stressful thoughts are banned from memory. If I do not think about it, then I do not suffer the associated stress have to deal with it. However, people engaging in Denial can pay a high cost in terms of the psychic energy needed to maintain the denial state. Repression and Denial are two primary defense mechanisms which everybody uses.
Children find denial easier, as with age, the ego matures and understands more about the “objective reality” it must operate within. Denial is one of Freud’s original defense mechanisms.So what?
When you appear to deny a situation, then the other person may join you in the denial or may have to handle it in a way that is not as direct as they otherwise might.
How is Denial Handled?
I am not a certified psychologist, so I would rather have a licensed professional provide a professional opinion. The author -- James J Messina, PhD, is a licensed psychologist with more than 35 years of experience counseling individuals and families. Messina, who specializes in adult and children psychotherapy, serves as Director of Psychological Services at St. Joseph’s Children’s Hospital in Tampa, Fla. He has a private practice in Tampa and is also a member of the American Psychological Association. Here’s what he wrote:
What is denial?
* Being unwilling to face problems on either a conscious or subconscious level.
* Acting as if there are no problems to face.
* A defensive response; protection from pain, hurt or suffering.
* A mask to hide feelings or emotions behind.
* A way to avoid conflict, disagreements or disapproval from others.
* A way to avoid facing the negative consequences of reality.
* A way of retaining our sanity when experiencing unbearable pain.
* A way to repress the truth of our loss, a way to continue to function in “normally.”
* A pattern of life for individuals who are compulsively driven to “look good.”
* A way to avoid the risk of change as a result of problems or loss.
How does denial look to others?Persons in denial:
* Appear to be irrational to those who know the problems and losses they have suffered.
* Appear to be calm and relaxed to those who do not know the problems and losses they have suffered.
* Are a cause of frustration to those who want them to confront the truth of the problem or loss honestly.
* Appear to be unemotional, apathetic or indifferent in the face of loss.
* Are considered pathetic and pitiable by those who have tried to confront them with the denial and have failed.
* Appear to be caught up in magical thinking about the loss involved.
* Appear to be excessively involved in fantasy thinking about the loss or problem.
* Appear to be childlike, very dependent on others to nurture them and reassure them that everything will be all right.
* Appear to be running away from the truth concerning their problems or loss.
* Appear to be avoiding or rejecting those who are intent on confronting them with their problems.
What are the negative consequences of unresolved denial?Unresolved denial can result in:
* Delusional thinking, leading to a feeling that everything is OK, even when it is not.
* Greater conflict between the deniers and the non-deniers.
* Fantasy or magical thinking, allowing distorted thinking to become a habit.
* Poor problem-solving and decision-making abilities for the denier.
* The denier totally avoiding or withdrawing from everyone who knows of the loss or problem.
* The denier becoming a social recluse.
* Others avoiding the denier to avoid upsetting him with their concern, questions or reassurance.
* Frustration for those who want to help the denier.
* A maladaptive pattern of coping with the loss or problem for the denier.
* Everyone involved in the life of the denier joining the denial; the problem is not confronted honestly by those who can do something about it.
* Resentment by the denier of those who are confronting him about the problems or loss.
* Prolonging the time before the denier must confront the pain, hurt and suffering involved in the loss or problem.
* The denier projecting the problem or the results of the loss onto others.
* The denier’s use of rationalization to explain away the problem or loss.
* Exacerbation of the very problems being denied.
How can we confront denial in ourselves?We can confront denial by:
* Asking ourselves honestly why we are in denial.
* Asking ourselves what are the benefits to be gained by our denial.
* Asking ourselves what is too painful to face.
* Recognizing when we are caught up in magical or fantasy thinking about our problem or loss.
* Recognizing the negative consequences that result from our denial behavior.
* Not allowing ourselves to fall back into a safe emotional zone, but to keep our emotional response open and honest.
* Recognizing when we are hiding behind a “nice” mask when discussing our loss or problems.
* Allowing ourselves to express negative or embarrassing emotions as we confront our problems (e.g., crying, feeling lost, feeling confused or feeling scared).
* Allowing ourselves to admit to being out of control.
* Trusting others to help us with our problem.
* Admitting our vulnerability and our need for assistance.
* Risking the loss of acceptance or approval by those who may be unable to handle our open, honest admission of our problem.
* Recognizing the negative behavior scripts that impede our ability to deal openly with problems.
* Recognizing that it is human to have problems and to experience loss; it is not a sign of our lack of value or worth.
* Refuting the irrational beliefs that block our acceptance of the loss or problems.
* Asking others to not allow us to deny or avoid the truth about our loss or problems.
* Recognizing that denial is a natural stage in the loss/grief response.
* Maintaining our sense of perspective, allowing ourselves to go through the problems as a growth experience.
* Believing that out of failure comes success; accepting the failure as a chance for personal growth.
* Accepting the help of others in the aftermath of our loss.
How can we cope with denial in others?In coping with denial in others, we need to:
* Have a great deal of patience in order to allow them the time it takes to finally confront their loss or problems.
* Be accepting of the denial as a psychological defense that is a vehicle for them to retain their sanity.
* Be careful in confronting them so that they don’t run away or withdraw from reality even more.
* Be ready for their resistance in dealing with the truth about their loss and problems.
* Freely offer them our support and understanding.
* Accept them as they are, waiting to deal with the loss or problem until they are ready.
* Be ready with a rational perspective to help them refute their current irrational beliefs.
* Resist solving their problems for them; resist the desire to continue sheltering or protecting them from their loss or problems.
* Continue to let them know that there is support for them in dealing with the loss or problems. Let them face the existence of the loss or problem gently but continuously.
* Provide them with subtle means to face the problem by giving them magazine or newspaper articles, pamphlets or books on the subject; suggesting TV and radio programs on the subject, or proposing professional help.
* Recognize that if they are locked into a chronic state of denial, which is debilitating to their mental health, that a denial intervention may be necessary.
A denial intervention modelIf a person close to you is using a chronic behavior pattern of denial injurious to his mental health, then the following intervention model may be useful in helping him break through this debilitating denial.
Step 1. Prepare a written script of incidents characteristic of the target person’s denial pattern of behavior. For each incident, list the following:
* The incidents where denial was used.
* When it occurred.
* What loss or problem was involved.
* What the negative consequences of the denial were.
* What could have happened if denial had not been used to resolve the problem or loss.
* Why and how this incident of denial has affected you personally.Step 2. Seek out other people who are closely related to the target person. Ask these people to prepare a written script, as in Step 1, for incidents of denial with which they know the target person has been involved.
Step 3. Seek out the assistance of a counselor or mental health professional, if you believe the aftermath of a denial intervention with the target person may result in that person needing to get ongoing help
This is ANTIPINOY.COM. You are undergoing intervention -- do not change the channel. LOL!
Nah, you are a free person, if you don’t like what you read here, you are free to leave. I believe in censorship, with the qualification that I believe that each of us are the ultimate censors of what we want or do not want to see. 
As Morpheus quipt to Neo, all I am promising you is the truth -- nothing else. After all, the truth, will set Filipinos free -- free from destructive behavior, free from destructive memes, free from the mental cages that surrounded themselves since the time they were born. Without that truth, Filipinos will always be economic slaves of the oligarchs -- they will be colonized by their very own elite. Freeing people from the mindset which has kept them reliant on the opinions of others solely, instead of listening to a variety of opinions and deciding for themselves is not an easy task. You are considered an enemy by the very people whose minds you are trying to awaken, to get unwired from the mob.
I admit the rawness of my words, I mean Rabindaranath Tagore’s version of what I said is definitely more profound -
My Country Awake
Where the mind is without fear and the head held high;
Where knowledge is free;
Where the world has not been broken up into fragments by narrow domestic walls;
Where words come out from the depth of truth;
Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection;
Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way into the dreary desert sand of dead habit;
Where the mind is led forward by Thee into ever-widening thought and action;
Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake.
Snapping out of Denial is a crucial step in Self-Mastery
When each Filipino is truly empowered, rational, realistic having snapped out of denial, I will be singing hossanahs weaved from the words of the ancient sages.
He who rules his spirit has won a greater victory than the taking of a city, Proverbs, 16:32
He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still, Lao-tzu
Knowing others is intelligence; knowing yourself is true wisdom. Mastering others is strength; mastering yourself is true power, Lao-tzu
One can have no smaller or greater mastery than mastery of oneself., Leonardo da Vinci
It doesn’t matter how one was brought up. What determines the way one does anything is personal power. Carlos Castaneda quotes from Journey to Ixtlan
One who conquers himself is greater than another who conquers a thousand times a thousand on the battlefield. Buddha quotes from The Dhammapada
The intelligent want self-control; children want candy. Mevlana Rumi quotes from Rumi Daylight: A Daybook of Spiritual Guidance
The lion who breaks the enemy’s ranks is a minor hero compared to the lion who overcomes himself. ~ Mevlana Rumi quotes from Rumi Daylight: A Daybook of Spiritual Guidance
So much so that when our self-mastery is embedded in our psyche and our private behavior is writ large, it will be that of a nation that has mastered itself. Do not put the cart before the horse, we are not there, yet. Till then, ANTIPINOY.COM will remain a voice in the wilderness, a wild man whose head is wanted on a silver platter. A wild man that keeps on howling GET REAL PHILIPPINES!!! Tandaan -- nation-building is a marathon, not a 100 meter dash.
Tame your inner anti-pinoy in ANTIPINOY.COM -- the antidote to Da Pinoy Dysfunction.
Maganding gabi/tanghali/hapon/gabi po sa inyong lahat, maayong buntag/udto/hapon/gabii-i sa inyong tanan -- suking tigbasa.
Bong V.
His advocacies include education and and the environment. BongV is a founding trustee of READ Philippines, Inc - a tax-exempt, non-profit organization registered in the State of Florida and recognized as a charitable organication under Section 501(c)(3) of the U.S. Internal Revenue Code -. He is also a trustee of the Kinasang'an Foundation (KSFI). KSFI is the community service arm of the family-owned Shimric Beach Farm a best environmental practices World Wildlife Fund-Philippines awardee. His initial entry into politics started in high school, after an Arrest Search and Seizure Order (ASSO) was served on a family member. He was in the frontlines in the 80s as Chairman of LFS-AdDU, and subsequently LFS-Davao City Secretary General. He opted out of medical school, after finishing BS Biology from the Ateneo de Davao University. Instead he dove into IT consulting/freelancing as a system integrator and developer. His militant views underwent a transformation after working as an investment promotions officer (later on Division Chief of the Investment Generation and Project Development Division of the Davao Investment Promotion Center) - a project of the Davao City LGU, USAID, and the Phil Exporters Confederation-XI- with the goal of achieving an economic turnaround for Davao City based on the growth of investments, trade, and services. This was followed by a stint as System Support Administrator of A Danish Indepent Power Producer - where he administered Burmeister and Waine's Wide Area Wetwork of floating power plants in Maco and Nasipit - and the Davao City office.
BongV is a certified Professional Logistics Specialist and is a member of the American Society of Transportation and Logistics. He is currently working on his advanced certification in supply chain management at the University of North Florida
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He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still, Lao-tzu






Very well written BongV. I am glad and proud to be part of Antipinoy.com. The best Pinoy blog there is.
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I can’t get enough of quoting one of my favourite lines from The Rock:
Losers whine about doing their best;
Winners go home and [bonk] the Prom Queen.
AntiPinoy provides the blueprint for the major makeover the Philippines needs to get itself on the road to bonking the proverbial Prom Queen. And that, by the way, is a metaphor, in case Mr GabbyD asks.
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UP n grad Reply:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:12 am
GabbyD was just asking why you answer rudely when he asks for clarification.
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BongV Reply:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:21 am
GabbyD is way too immersed in Political Correctness – that’s so uncool
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“The Rock”, to me, was (arguably) the last, good Sean Connery film.
While reading this article though, i was reminded of a scene from another film that had Nick Cage in it. It was the famous scene in “Moonstruck” where Cher slaps Cage twice, yelling “Snap out of it!”. I imagined Cage as an “classic anti-pinoy” that deserved to be slapped hard for being in denial.
Snap out of it, Philippines! Wake up and get real! This is what it’s all about!
(SLAP!)
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homer Reply:
March 9th, 2010 at 4:34 am
Correction:
…as A “classic anti-pinoy” WHO deserved to……
(my OCD made me do this…)
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Great, Bong. The last paragraph has real passion.
I see this blog as a pair of firm, insistent hands, repeatedly turning Philippines around to look in the mirror at that which it just does not want to see.
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BongV Reply:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Thanks John. Ang problema nito, tinutulungan mo na, ikaw na ang inutangan, ikaw pa ang masama.
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Maayung hapun usab suking tigsulat!
Well, tis a good thing but seeing as how people are too concerned about their own lives it’s going to take a while before people start getting real.
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BongV Reply:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Kay unsa pa man diay Free.
The thing is someone needs to start speaking up..
“First they came …” is a popular poem attributed to Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group. In Niemöller’s first utterance of it, in a January 6, 1946 speech before representatives of the Confessing Church in Frankfurt, it went (in German):[1]
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Great article, great reflection about the Philippines. Hope something beautiful will happen to our motherland. Perhaps, we need a miracle, and this time it should come from the people. So vote wisely!
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BongV Reply:
March 9th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Thanks Jansen.
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I wonder if “slapping” is enough. Maybe you need a good heck of a whack with a two-by-four a la Hacksaw Jim Duggan… that’ll crack enough hard heads. LOL
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BongV Reply:
March 9th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
ayan ChinoF, kaya nagtatalak ang mother superior ng combento ng FV
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Ma Xianding Reply:
March 9th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Kumakanta na yun ng “how do you solve a problem line benign0, how do you catch a cloud and pin it down”…
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ChinoF Reply:
March 10th, 2010 at 12:26 am
Catch a cloud eh? Maybe we should shout at them to get their heads out of it. hehe
Eto naman is from a Lebanese poet by the name of Kahlil Gibran one of my faves:
My Countrymen
What do you seek, my countrymen?
Do you desire that I build for
You gorgeous palaces, decorated
With words of empty meaning, or
Temples roofed with dreams? Or
Do you command me to destroy what
The liars and tyrants have built?
Shall I uproot with my fingers
What the hypocrites and the wicked
Have implanted? Speak your insane
Wish!
What is it you would have me do,
My countrymen? Shall I purr like
The kitten to satisfy you, or roar
Like the lion to please myself? I
Have sung for you, but you did not
Dance; I have wept before you, but
You did not cry. Shall I sing and
Weep at the same time?
Your souls are suffering the pangs
Of hunger, and yet the fruit of
Knowledge is more plentiful than
The stones of the valleys.
Your hearts are withering from
Thirst, and yet the springs of
Life are streaming about your
Homes — why do you not drink?
The sea has its ebb and flow,
The moon has its fullness and
Crescents, and the ages have
Their winter and summer, and all
Things vary like the shadow of
An unborn god moving between
Earth and sun, but truth cannot
Be changed, nor will it pass away;
Why, then, do you endeavour to
Disfigure its countenance?
I have called you in the silence
Of the night to point out the
Glory of the moon and the dignity
Of the stars, but you startled
From your slumber and clutched
Your swords in fear, crying,
“Where is the enemy? We must kill
Him first!” At morningtide, when
The enemy came, I called to you
Again, but now you did not wake
From your slumber, for you were
Locked in fear, wrestling with
The processions of spectres in
Your dreams.
And I said unto you, “Let us climb
To the mountain top and view the
Beauty of the world.” And you
Answered me, saying, “In the depths
Of this valley our fathers lived,
And in its shadows they died, and in
Its caves they were buried. How can
We depart this place for one which
They failed to honour?”
And I said unto you, “Let us go to
The plain that gives its bounty to
The sea.” And you spoke timidly to
Me, saying, “The uproar of the abyss
Will frighten our spirits, and the
Terror of the depths will deaden
Our bodies.”
I have loved you, my countrymen, but
My love for you is painful to me
And useless to you; and today I
Hate you, and hatred is a flood
That sweeps away the dry branches
And quavering houses.
I have pitied your weakness, my
Countrymen, but my pity has but
Increased your feebleness, exalting
And nourishing slothfulness which
Is vain to life. And today I see
Your infirmity which my soul loathes
And fears.
I have cried over your humiliation
And submission, and my tears streamed
Like crystalline, but could not sear
Away your stagnant weakness; yet they
Removed the veil from my eyes.
My tears have never reached your
Petrified hearts, but they cleansed
The darkness from my inner self.
Today I am mocking at your suffering,
For laughter is a raging thunder that
Precedes the tempest and never comes
After it.
What do you desire, my countrymen?
Do you wish for me to show you
The ghost of your countenance on
The face of still water? Come,
Now, and see how ugly you are!
Look and meditate! Fear has
Turned your hair grey as the
Ashes, and dissipation has grown
Over your eyes and made them into
Obscured hollows, and cowardice
Has touched your cheeks that now
Appear as dismal pits in the
Valley, and death has kissed
Your lips and left them yellow
As the autumn leaves.
What is it that you seek, my
Countrymen? What ask you from
Life, who does not any longer
Count you among her children?
Your souls are freezing in the
Clutches of the priests and
Sorcerers, and your bodies
Tremble between the paws of the
Despots and the shedders of
Blood, and your country quakes
Under the marching feet of the
Conquering enemy; what may you
Expect even though you stand
Proudly before the face of the
Sun? Your swords are sheathed
With rust, and your spears are
Broken, and your shields are
Laden with gaps, why, then, do
You stand in the field of battle?
Hypocrisy is your religion, and
Falsehood is your life, and
Nothingness is your ending; why,
Then, are you living? Is not
Death the sole comfort of the
Miserable?
Life is a resolution that
Accompanies youth, and a diligence
That follows maturity, and a
Wisdom that pursues senility; but
You, my countrymen, were born old
And weak. And your skins withered
And your heads shrank, whereupon
You become as children, running
Into the mire and casting stones
Upon each other.
Knowledge is a light, enriching
The warmth of life, and all may
Partake who seek it out; but you,
My countrymen, seek out darkness
And flee the light, awaiting the
Coming of water from the rock,
And your nation’s misery is your
Crime. I do not forgive you
Your sins, for you know what you
Are doing.
Humanity is a brilliant river
Singing its way and carrying with
It the mountains’ secrets into
The heart of the sea; but you,
My countrymen, are stagnant
Marshes infested with insects
And vipers.
The spirit is a sacred blue
Torch, burning and devouring
The dry plants, and growing
With the storm and illuminating
The faces of the goddesses; but
You, my countrymen, your souls
Are like ashes which the winds
Scatter upon the snow, and which
The tempests disperse forever in
The valleys.
Fear not the phantom of death,
My countrymen, for his greatness
And mercy will refuse to approach
Your smallness; and dread not the
Dagger, for it will decline to be
Lodged in your shallow hearts.
I hate you, my countrymen, because
You hate glory and greatness. I
Despise you because you despise
Yourselves. I am your enemy, for
You refuse to realize that you are
The enemies of the goddesses.
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I believe the last paragraph of BongV’s. My being anti-pinoy molded my character of seeing what is wrong with me and made me a better person so I will not be the brunt of criticism of all the anti-pinoys out there but be a part of the solution as a pinnacle of example. So, that I will have the right to “throw mud at Filipinos”. What good is a mud thrown at them when the mud is myself.
If anyone care to visit FilipinoVoices for fun and entertainment, Nick made a subtle reference to AntiPinoy.com and its netizens.
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You guys have the best articles!
I’ve read that article which i think calling AP writers disgraced Filipinos. Really, pointing out the ills of this country’s people does not make anyone a disgraced Filipino. But I understand they are threatened by AP now..you’re getting a huge share of their readers.
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kayo talaga oo, meron lang few na nag-disagree sa inyo and/or di pinakinggan ang mga sinabi nyo – in denial na kaagad ang buong nasyon!
it seems all of you are just looking for justifications to your decision to migrate to the US, UK, Canada or Australia – so you stress on the, ugh, need to ‘improve’ the country you abandoned
nag-migrate na nga kayo sa ibang bansa, what is it to you if the country is still “in denial”?
for those who are in the US – di kaya kayo ang in denial? that the current financial crisis there “can’t be happening” to the “richest nation on earth”? so believing that “its much worse pa sa ‘pinas” gives you some comfort?
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usi Reply:
April 12th, 2010 at 9:40 am
this post isn’t even about migrating or staying..hello??
so you think PH is in pretty good shape, huh? LOL!!!
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So what if some of them (I don’t know) are not in PH anymore? Automatically disowned as a Filipino? You can’t say anything critical about the people you lived with back then? That’s so stupid.
“nag-migrate na nga kayo sa ibang bansa, what is it to you if the country is still “in denial”?”
I think this is the most stupid statement I ever read. It’s like when you left your parent to fend for yourself, that you shouldn’t care for them anymore. You have no love for our country or its people if that’s what you believe.
I’m still in PH, BTW. Just in case you brand me as the one that migrated to US or UK.
Peace.
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