From the Net: Richard Gordon is ARROGANT!!! – Louis Pawid
- Friday, April 23, 2010, 14:49
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Richard Gordon was arrogant when he debated for four years with his colleagues to pass the Automated Election System law to ensure the sanctity of our votes and for our electoral system to modernize and become at par with democracies like the United States and India where results are decided immediately the next day. He still remained arrogant in pushing the COMELEC to implement the law ASAP and have the budget that now in May 2010 we will finally have automated elections. 
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he had more equipment and rubber boats than the government and NDCC to lead rescue and relief at the height of Ondoy and once again commandeered a US Marine force to refocus from joint training exercises to humanitarian missions with Red Cross and Coast Guard in rescue and relief effort for typhoon Pepeng flood victims in Pangasinan, La Union and Benguet.
Richard Gordon was arrogant as Blue Ribbon Committee Chair that in the Fertilizer Scam he jailed JocJoc Bolante in the Senate on Christmas and Paule in the Pasay City jail and in less than 18 months when he continued pending investigations that took years, came up with a report, recommendations for laws needed and the filling of charges to perpetrators of the Fertilizer Scam and the NBN-ZTE deal including concerned members of the Cabinet, the President and the First Gentlemen in 2009. He remains arrogant and wants the Ombudsman elected as it has been corrupted many times over and JocJoc Bolante is still free and now running for Governor in Capiz while GMA is running for Congress in her hometown and maybe immune from suit in the future.
Richard Gordon was arrogant not to join GMA in an official trip to the US in 2008 and instead flew to Iloilo to lead rescue and relief efforts for typhoon Frank victims in Panay island and Negros island in the Visayas and Cotabato in Mindanao.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when even while on vacation in the US in 2007 he went to the Senate and House of Representatives in Capitol Hill to lobby for the Americans to settle and pay their Debt of Honor to World War II Filipino Veterans that fought and died side by side with American soldiers. He remained arrogant when he authored, pushed and had the Veterans Benefits Act signed into law by GMA that the US Senate voted their counterpart measure 94-1 and the new Obama administration included US$198 Mil Fil-Am Veterans Benefits in the impetus bill.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he summoned PCGG officials and jailed Chairman Sabio who refused to be investigated for corruption and mismanaging ill-gotten wealth that they were supposed to retrieve and protect.
Richard Gordon was arrogant while still 24 years old and a law student at UP and against the advice of his professors ran for a seat in the 1971 Constitutional Convention representing Zambales..and won.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when as the youngest delegate he called for a vote on the ban Marcos re-election measure in the 1971 Constitution Convention and even debated with Marcos who was his brod during a student demonstration against the CCP and PICC construction amidst the social unrest of the First Quarter Storm.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he left his career as a lawyer at ACCRA to ran and become the youngest Mayor of Olongapo City in 1980.
Richard Gordon was arrogant before the nation when he transformed the community of Olongapo that was portrayed as Sin City by instituting reforms such as the Color-Code, efficient Garbage Collection and enforced Peace and Order and went against the very criminal syndicates that had previously cost him his father’s own life.
Richard Gordon was arrogant to call for a joint use of the US bases by Filipinos and Americans coming up with a plan even while Marcos and Reagan were re-negotiating the bases treaty in the 80′s long before the closure in 1992.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he jailed some 20 policemen including a chief of police for disturbing the peace and abusing their authority in his city even during the period of Martial Law.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he interfered and went against the wishes of the Aquino administration and the NDCC and brought down 8,000 Aetas from the mountains of Zambales as well as led a rescue team with Americans to the ruins of Central Colleges in Cabanatuan and airlifted relief goods using US marine choppers from Clark to Baguio in the earthquake of 1990.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he let the then Admiral of the US Navy walk and apologize to the community for not letting Filipino citizens of Olongapo safe passage through the base when Mt. Pinatubo erupted in 1991.
Richard Gordon was arrogant before Congress and the Senate when he lobbied for the creation of a Freeport and at the same time take the reigns as Chairman of the SBMA in 1992.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he competed against leading freeports like Hong Kong, Singapore and Labuan to make Subic an international trade and tourism destination.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he refused to go before Congress to receive a budget from the national government to run SBMA and instead raised his own revenues to spare Filipino taxpayers additional burden and add more to the government coffers.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he competed against Singapore, Thailand and Hong Kong to host Federal Express’ Asia One hub in Subic that resulted in Orchids from Davao and fresh tuna from General Santos to be brought overnight to Japan and the US markets.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he reprimanded, suspended and fined foreign investors like Hong Kong Chinese of Reebok, Koreans of Hanjin Construction, Taiwanese of UIG, Germans of Alcatel and Americans of Enron and Coastal who were abusive and or have violated labor and environmental laws, respectively in Subic.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he forced the longer stay of 21 world leaders of APEC in the Leaders’ Summit to prove that the country was a safe and a sincerely changed nation.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he fought for the best bid for the Filipino taxpayer of Hutchinson to privatize the Subic container port against vested interests in the industry and co-opted high ranking officials of the Ramos administration who wanted to maintain and preserve a monopoly.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he was the first to stand up against the most popularly elected president, Joseph Estrada, who issued his first act of not recognizing government security of tenure and the rule of law in 1998. He still remained arrogant going against and even after GMA granted the latter pardon.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when despite initial demonstrations and walk-outs he made the Department of Tourism shape up as a frontline service agency to be voted top government department in a survey by the Makati Business Club when he ended his stint in 2004.
Richard Gordon was arrogant to lead the tourism industry at the height of kidnappings, war in Mindanao and even more arrogant to sustain the effort to promote the Philippines amidst Abu Sayyaf, SARS, and the Oakwood mutiny.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he stood up against first world countries like the United States, United Kingdom, Australia who issued unfair Travel Advisories indirectly rewarding terrorists against third world countries like the Philippines who’s economies depend on tourism.
Richard Gordon was arrogant to ran for the Senate even while surveys placed him at number 29 and that he had no money and machinery yet landed number 5 even without sectoral religious support.
Richard Gordon was arrogant in the Senate in consulting and unifying the fragmented tourism industry to have a common policy body and push for the Tourism Act in Congress until it was finally signed into law in 2009.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he commandeered an entire US marine battalion to relocate their joint training exercises in Luzon to assist in rescue and relief operations in the St. Bernard, Southern, Leyte landslide in 2005.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he took charge and ordered various government rescue personnel and even media during the chaotic Wowowee ULTRA stampede.
Richard Gordon was arrogant in the 13th Congress when he defended the integrity of the Constitution, despite voting against it in 1987, before unlawful moves for CHACHA, PIRMA and PI by GMA and Speaker de Venecia.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he grilled Abalos at the Senate hearings where his litigation style of questioning unmasked the earlier grinning and sheepish former COMELEC Chair to admit that at the height of election period for the May 2007 mid-term elections he traveled on many occasions to China to play golf with ZTE executives.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he stood up in the joint session of Congress to question the validity of GMA’s declaration of Martial Law in Maguindanao and the issuance of firearms and ammunition by the DND to para-military forces under the Ampatuans in said area.
Richard Gordon was arrogant even on Christmas when Mt. Mayon erupted and the MV/Baleno sunk of the port of Batangas that he investigated the concerned shipping and maritime agencies who’s mismanagement yet caused another disaster in 2009.
Richard Gordon was arrogant during the last days of the 14th Congress this year when he asked colleague Manny Villar to be interpolated to defend himself on the C-5 controversy. He remains arrogant in challenging Villar to a debate after the latter left the Senate Session Hall refusing to answer questions from colleagues.
Richard Gordon was arrogant as class president in the Ateneo when he started an anti-complacency campaign that students were apathetic and indifferent to society’s ills and were basking on the shadow of the greatness of Rizal and dela Costa during the 60′s.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when he joined Raul Manglapus’ presidential campaign under the Party for Philippine Progress and went against the traditional politics of then major parties of NP and LP.
Richard Gordon was arrogant when after his father’s assassination he left a cushy corporate job at Procter and Gamble to study law at UP and seek justice.
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**** YEA THAT’S MY ARROGANT DICK RIGHT THERE!!!!
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That’s how Filipino culture sees people who do what is really right – arrogant.
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helios Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 2:22 am
dude youre right…. it just seems pretty f***ed up to be living in a country which would rather go for the lazy motherf***er (pardon my french im just so mad) in yellow shirt than to vote for someone who has genuinely showed that he cares for the country… its a disservice to us filipinos and an insult to common sense.
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Ray Rodriguez Reply:
April 26th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
There was one time, a PNP Police Officers approached a jeepney driver and told him to move along because he is blocking the road or else he will give him a ticket. The driver said “sandali lang naman ako eh” to which the Policeman raised his voice so he was forced to moved his jeepney. But after that he was muttering to the passengers that the policeman was “mayabang” and “arrogante”.
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waitwat Reply:
April 26th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
They just can’t handle how retarded they are so they always put the blame on authorities who tell on their wrongdoings.
Yeah Gordon did many good things- but those are not excuses to justify recent outbursts.
1.) Airport- He should have controlled himself- not having Press people there? what’s the problem? Airport too noisy? It’s an airport! What can you do about it?
The best thing he could have done was just not sweat the small stuff in the Airport. He could have shown his leadership over there. Not biting to the pressure.
2.) Surveys – Why the heck would you sue surveys? That’s a losing battle over there. Even though we can say that surveys can influence people, it is Gordon’s job to bring the message that “hey, vote for me- I’m the most qualified” or make better campaign strategies.
Losers always complain, winners always see the good stuff.
When he sued the surveys I remembered Aquino who onced said that surveys can be bought in Quiapo(when 2 points separated Vill and Aquino) but two months later, he proclaims surveys as true and accurate and the meter of voter maturity (when he had an 11 point advantage)
If I were Gordon, he would have taken the surveys as acceptable but not Gospel truth- not the whining outburst (in the form of legal action) he is doing. He should have vowed to do better next time.
C’mon Dick, get your form up. Get composure man- only two weeks left.
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ChinoF Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 2:55 am
1. While he is hot-headed, sometimes brash, that’s a personality quirk… but doesn’t this trait explain why he is able to achieve more than the supposed “uncorrupt” candidate? His hot-headedness may be related to his being a man of action. He is probably impatient… so out of impatience, he goes out to achieve that result he wants. One can say that impatient people can achieve more results.
2. It’s obvious that NoyVil – my term for the two supposed “top contenders” – are taking advantage of surveys to influence the people’s ideas. While true that Gordon’s action may not seem practical at the moment, it’s based on something that’s true – his opponents are using unfair tactics.
You’re right though, losers complain… so Noynoy wins, the people will complain. “Oh why oh why did we elect this nutcase?” hehe
To Louis Pawid… excellent piece about your candidate.
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Mr.__________ Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 3:28 am
You know, Noynoy isn’t the only person vs. Gordon. There are people who have good achievements and work-ethics much like Gordon who doesn’t display the “Gordon Personality”.
There’s Gibo- Gordon’s a slim winner on achievements but for personality and leadership- I think Gibo would have a higher lead.
There’s Villar (The person I’m voting for) – He has a slim advantage (some can say a tie) with Gordon if achievements are to becounted, but for personality, again Villar has a wide lead.
But that’s just me.
The point is, I don’t want a president who has this outbursts because it would just be divisive for Filipinos. Filipinos would just fight him in every reform he pushes(maybe because of the ego prolem of Pinoys) AND Gordon, because of the personality trait, would personally pick a fight with them because things aren’t going his way. It’s kind of undiplomatic in my opinion. Whereas Gibo or Villar would have a slight advantage of courting them because of their respective personalities.
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ChinoF Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 3:56 am
While you write off Gordon, at least you did so using some reason, rather than lame excuses. If Gordon’s outbursts are a downer, I’d agree, and we hope he composes himself if ever he does win. And at least your reason is better than saying, “it’s because he’s a tailender in the surveys.” But for me, we should really skip the personality traits and just focus on the actual achievements and skills of the person.
Wish the Noynoy people would realize that theirs isn’t the only person against Villar, aye?
Mr.__________ Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 4:02 am
“Wish the Noynoy people would realize that theirs isn’t the only person against Villar, aye?”
@ChinoF, that’s their problem. But if they would “realize” that, they (mostly) would vote for Erap and some for Gibo.
Mr.__________ Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 4:09 am
@Chino F, I beg to differ on “we should skip the personality traits”
For a country very divided across the Political Spectrum we should have a leader that has the capability to unite them- or at least to get them to work together.
That’s where the personality trait comes in.
If Gordon has indeed this “Gordon Personality” it would be impossible to unite leftists and other peeps. It would also be hard to make Pinoys follow you because of that personality- Pinoys wouldn’t want someone who was picking a fight at them right just because they don’t agree with him?
As I said Villar has capacities to unite- (senate slate, ability to be house speaker, senate president)
Gibo can potentially have the capacity to unite – (over-all demeanor, the way of handling probs. etc)
this might be a long shot, but Hitler didn’t have a really great personality- but I think he had decent achievements and stuff. Gordon is certainly not Hitler but it goes to show personality should be a factor.
ChinoF Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 4:37 am
I guess you’re right that personality as a factor is inescapable in a country that look at personalities rather than platforms and results. But is Gordon really picking fights that much? Well, I do hope he gets his act together, but I’ll follow my own advice – skip that little personality bit of his and stick to Gordon.
Mr.__________ Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 4:45 am
from the looks of it, there were four instances where the Gordon personality showed that really bothers me.
1.) Airport
2.)Surveys
3.)Xavier
4.)Erap-Gordon issue back in ’98
But yes, we have different points of view and different mothodologies.
I for one, agree to disagree . (That’s the right term right?)
ben Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 3:23 am
U see the deception of the media? Why do you think they are only covering the stories of Dick suing the surveys now? He’s been preparing to sue them for quite some time now, getting all necessary documents together, but of cors, the media takes advantage of this since it’s only 2 weeks left, to make him look worse and Noyfag a bloody superman (hero)…
Your take on his personality as a hot tempered individual only shows the culture instilled in you by this country we call the Philippines. A people of weak stature, intimidated by those who assert themselves, and would rather shut up while they are constantly being beaten to death. Go figure.
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Mr.__________ Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 3:32 am
No that’s not asserting themselves Ben. That’s what, forgive me, losers do.
Gibo isn’t leading, but he shuns them as inaccurate and gets on with his campaign.
Villar is in a downward trend but he says there are highs and lows and the only thing we have to do is to do better next time.
Those are the right mindsets of leaders in my opinion.
It isn’t really nice if someone who doesn’t get what he wants complain- you’ve got to wark hard for it.
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ben Reply:
April 26th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Lol… Then we’re a nation of LOSERS then according to your theory (based on our reactions towards all the criticism and remarks our nation received from international personalities).
I won’t contest
ChinoF Reply:
April 26th, 2010 at 12:35 am
Hmmm… for one thing, Dick’s outbursts seem to happen on media… who knows if it’s a contrived presentation of Dick as “hot tempered.” While the outbursts of the rest of the candidates are hidden… hmmmm…. media talaga o… madaya.
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BenK Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 3:46 am
You know, Mr. _________, I almost wish I didn’t have to admit it, but I tend to agree with you. I think Gordon has bungled much of his campaign. On the one hand, I can look at it from the point of view that his being unwilling to play the same game is just another sign of his being the best choice, but on the other hand, being the best choice doesn’t do anyone any good if he doesn’t do what he needs to do to actually get elected.
The whole survey thing is a big disappointment, IMO. Spend the time and effort better by getting out there and getting the REAL message to people — Gordon shouldn’t be diverting their attention and his rapidly-evaporating time to…well, let’s call a spade a spade…falling for Ignoy’s bull**** and focusing on the surveys.
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Mr.__________ Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 3:58 am
Thanks for the insight BenK.
For this 2 weeks left, maybe gordon should shift focus on why he is capable.He should use the remaining two weeks and the survey debacle as a jumping point for a final push. Media is focusing on him right now and he should take the advantage to do something to get voters’ appeal.
Maybe to shun surveys but vow to do better on his mission to win?
Maybe to withdraw the survey complaint and say that as Dick Gordon, he should be above that and focus on delivering what is right?
I’m not a campaign manager but I think Gordon should capitalize on this to get people to vote for him.
Make a problem a solution.
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ChinoF Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 4:33 am
I think it’s not just Gordon who’s ticked off with surveys… even Jamby came in. Maybe more candidates will want to have the surveys stopped…. except of course, those who top in them. I hope though that people will learn to disregard surveys and follow their own choices. I think only those glued to media like TV or radio are the ones who’ll take the surveys hook, line and sinker.
Mr.__________ Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 4:40 am
Yes, I agree with that one- people should decide on what they know and not on survey results.
Candidates on another hand should capitalize on the survey resultsto show what they’re made of and to reassure the public that they can do the job.
Especially now where surveys are all over the place. One survey made by DILG has these results:
Aquino 41
Estrada 25
Villar 23
Teodoro 9
Villanueva 2
Gordon 1
Another one made by a radio company shows Aquino leading.
These infos were from Noy’s fb page.
ben Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 4:44 am
(i hope my quote works)
Which is, sad to say, almost 90% of the population.
You can blame Gordon for his personality all you want, but if not Gordon, then who will stand up to these surverys? This isn’t the last election, and the future elections will continue to have such surveys until someone intervenes. I admit, the timing is way off (as the media shows), but while others are taking it sitting down, Gordon – a man of action – is doing something about it. If he is unsuccessful in fixing it now, then he will hopefully fix it in the long run.
My problem with Gibo’s leadership is that he lacks discretion (Maguindanao, Ondoy, and Gordon’s experience with him which he shared with Karen in his interview with him). Everything’s by the book, while the book is completely flawed. And I don’t get why he doesn’t attend forums and debates anymore, would rather continue with campaign tour.
usi Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 4:59 am
i believe they’re really after the temporary restraining order..
please look at your list again and weigh it against what Gordon has achieved so far..IMO, it’s negligible. Pinoy culture is what makes you feel that his ‘personality’ should bother you, when, in fact, it shouldn’t. please don’t major on the minors..
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Mr.__________ Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:06 am
No I think that’s not negligble.
Personality should be a factor when choosing a president.
As I said earlier, it would be important when dealing with the public(during pivotal moments such as pushing for reform), when uniting scattered people from the political spectrum, and being able to use diplomacy in the Congress and Senate(For reforms)
With the Gordon’s outbursts, I doubt his composure when he would face daunting tasks(like those I said) if he wins.
There would be times when Filipinos would not aprrove of the things he wants and what would he do?
Outburst or Diplomacy?
With the recent things, I think he’ll go with the first.
And please, don’t use Pinoy culture or pinoy mind to somewhat put me down- read my comments first. Thanks
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usi Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:10 am
huh?! please take a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymSMsFZESsQ
see him in action during ‘daunting tasks’
Mr.__________ Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:12 am
As I said in another comment,
“daunting tasks” of yesterday has shown his capabilities.
BUT
“daunting tasks” of today has shown otherwise.
usi Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:12 am
IMO, suing SWS and Pulse Asia is a lot better than spending millions in campaign ads, going over the max. campaign funds allowed by Law..esp. if they do get that TRO..
apart from your list, he’s had TV & radio interviews, participations in debates, etc. (if you don’t want to talk about the huge number of ‘past’ hurdles he’s overcome) ..those, too, show his personality–his more consistent personality..
ben Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:35 am
Again, comparing now and then is subjective.
Noynoy right now… He had done nothing in the past the prove himself… But right now, Noynoy is handling these elections with ease and he continues to get the support of the majority (zombies). He doesn’t have to take Villar’s allegations against him with the Hacienda issues, SCTex issue, and all of what he is lacking.
So, in a sense, with the logic you present, Noynoy is handling these “tough” or “daunting” moments better than Gordon is. Hmmm… Why do I find that flawed?
The same example goes with Villar as I mentioned in another comment.
BongV Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
I’d rather deal with Gordon’s outburst – for good reason.
It’s not like he is having an outburst for nothing.
Between Gibo and Teodoro – the game changer to me was Teodoro’s choice of Edu Manzano. I just went.. TOINK.
Jay Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 6:43 am
You know, the fact that Gordon’s getting much scrutiny probably plays a negative role in his campaign. But many like Mr. __________ thinks that personality is everything for a president. That isn’t the case. Especially with your point about uniting people through that trait alone, which isn’t saying much considering most of the people can’t even think for themselves to tell them what things they should pay attention to regarding the country. Besides, a man shows what he is made of what he does under pressure, or how they handle the pressure as opposed to being meek and going through the easier methods.
Besides, Villar will unite the people, but also lead them away from the real problem while patching up things. I doubt his personality is made for one to be a determined problem solver, than one who throws everything at a handy resource and let them do the work for him.
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Charmaine Reply:
May 12th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Can’t even put a decent name on your comment huh? Haha, well that is often the case of people who try to badmouth Gordon. Obviously you’re not well informed, you just got that from hearsay. Either that or you really have poor judgment.. If you’ve seen what actually transpired there, you’d want to get your facts straight before trying to post inaccurate information. It’s obvious that you just want to badmouth him. Read up, watch more. You’ll know that what you’re saying hardly makes sense.
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One more thing I failed to mention:
3.) Refusal to sign covenant in Xavier debate if Xavier peeps didn’t condemn other presidentiables who weren’t there. – this I think Gordon has landed in the lowest fm all lows when it comes to the elections. Gordon’s campaign should center on HIM on HIS qualities, on HIS achievements, not on OTHER candidates’ actions (like not going to debates). Dick, if you’re a leader, then you should have respect and composure. Respect to show to the Xavier guys(by signing and NOT putting them in an uncomfortable corner) and composure to not whine about every single thing your rivals do.
There’s this comment I got from a separate article from antipinoy by the troll dick gordon’s a dick:
“Kaya walang bumoboto sayo Gordon- ang pangit kasi ng ugali mo. Magaling ka nga- pangit naman ugali mo”
- sad to say most people say this. I had doubts that this is true but now, Gordon’s personaltiy is beginning to unravel. I decided one month ago to vote for someone else and this doubt was one of the things that urged me to change my vote. Today, I can see my doubts are true. Two weeks to go before the election- I’m positive I’m going for someone else
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ilda Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 4:40 am
@Mr________
This is my response to that comment you just quoted:
I wonder what his basis is in saying “pangit ang ugali” ni Gordon? It doesn’t make any sense to acknowledge that Gordon is “magaling” and then say “pangit ang ugali”. If you say magaling si Gordon that means you know that he has accomplished a lot for the Philippines so why would you say “pangit ang ugali” nya? Tsk-tsk.
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I can’t blame Gordon for feeling frustrated. He doesn’t have ABS-CBN and the Inquirer to back up his campaign, he doesn’t have a big celebrity endorser and he doesn’t have the same funds as Villar. But he is the most credible and has achieved more for the country among all of them. I don’t like the timing of his complain but he is fighting for the toughest battle of his political career and these surveys don’t serve any purpose other than to play on the minds of those who cannot think independently.
Gordon brings home the bacon if you ask me and he has dealt with foreign investors in the past. It’s not like he cried in front of them. He is a seasoned politician. Nakakaiyak naman talaga to deal with fellowPinoys minsan eh dahil malabo kausap
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ilda Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 4:52 am
I have a feeling that Gordon feels frustrated now towards the end of the campaign period because he probably believed in his heart that the voters would not be razzle dazzled by a popular name, expensive advertising and celebrity endorsers. He must have mistaken the voters for intellectuals but now realise that he is actually dealing with a bunch of fools.
Only the thinking voters look at the results of the candidate’s past achievements and base their decisions on that.
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Mr.__________ Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 4:56 am
For me the comment means that although he has achieved great stuff, people still won’t vote for him because of his “ugali”/attitude- for me his personality- see my comments above.
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Yeah you can’t blame him for being frustrated BUT nevertheless, Gordon should snap out of it and focus more on the campaign. It just shows “The Gordon Personality” that when I don’t get what I want, you’re wrong I’m right.
Yes, surveys can play at the minds- surveys can do bad things for one’s candidacy- but if your Gordon- the only thing that would show that you deserve the Precidency is to not complain about it- because it is given fact that losers complain and winners see the good stuff.
If you pick a fight on surveys, you’ll always lose- cause what if you become the frontrunner? Are the surveys still bad?
An example I sated was about Noynoy shunning surveys when he was statistically tied with Villar, but now, he proclaims them as Gospel Truth.
As I said earlier, it also shows his level of composure. Come to think of it, I now can doubt his leadership during tough times, and during opposition if he wins because of the composure thing.
His capacity to unite isalso in question because of this(see my previous comments and replies).
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I also beg to differ on your point that he has done/achieved more for the country than anyone of them.
I think Villar has a slim(some can say they are tied) advantage in this round.
Credible?
Maybe- one of the top three, but the Erap-Gordon debacle of 98 casts doubts on his credibility.
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ben Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:02 am
Tough times?
Pinatubo…
US Naval base abandoning Subic…
The nation’s tourism plummeting…
Not tough times? Hmm…
Mr.__________ Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:11 am
@Ben, yup tough times alright…
and he’s also at seemingly tough times.
What is more accurate? the past or the now present things we see?
ben Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:28 am
Now that’s subjective. How about scaling the severity of the “tough” times? These aren’t tough times. As Gordon said, he has everything to lose. If he doesn’t win, unlike Villar, Noynoy and Legarda, he has no extensions as a Senator. So to me, these “tough” times are being handled by him in the best way he sees fit. I mean, he has no choice. The decision was made between doing something or nothing at all.
As far as Villar’s way of doing things, he will sit down and wait until his allegations die down. He never tackled any of the issues against him head on. Everything was avoided. He knows how to play the game. And look now, the media stopped hassling him. I guess he won now right?
brianitus Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 4:57 am
Hi, Ilda.
As far as ugali ni Gordon is concerned, I do not know him personally so I wouldn’t know. As far as his complaints go, aren’t we all entitled to complain if we’re slighted or whenever we feel cheated? Gordon is human, is he not? Now if some people cannot accept a leader who expresses his frustration openly, we might as well put an unfeeling computer to head the country. I’d rather have someone vent his frustration openly than stab me in the back when everything’s all quiet.
A good PR man can turn things around for Gordon. It ain’t over yet.
Go Gordon!
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usi Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:06 am
well said, brianitus
Gordon is human and passionate about lifting this country (w/ our help of course!) from the disgraceful state it’s been in for so long..
Mr.__________ Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:08 am
He is human- and expressing frustraions is human. But I’m saying is, other qualified presidentiables don’t outburst just because of these surveys or Airport noise or such- they comment on it, and push through.
Gibo does that.
Villar does that.
ilda Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:19 am
I totally agree brianitus! I’ve had bosses in the past who were very emotional and someone who wouldn’t have second thoughts about telling you how he feels. His favourite expression was “heads will roll” and this kept everyone doing their job well. This is how I see a Gordon presidency
Mr.__________ Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:22 am
Yes, I do agree a good PR man could turn things around given the fact that media is somewhat focused on him right now.
He should grab the oppurtunity.(See my comments on this)
Mr.__________ Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:26 am
@Ilda and Usi and other peeps
we obviously have different takes on the issue.
No matter what, I think the points we have said could not be changed.
Maybe this is the point of democracy- exchanging ideas.
I for one have got to go- thanks for the insight and good luck with your candidate.
PS
I for one am still a fan of antipinoy
sorry for making a big fuss in your comments page. hahahaha
brianitus Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:37 am
Hi, Mr.____________,
I do get what you’re saying, that it should be beneath him. However, I don’t know if not taking crap from anyone can be considered as a character flaw. Seriously, I’d love to have a guy like that on my team any time.
Well, he has a couple of weeks to go; what’ll you have him do, sit around and not do anything? While there may have been other options known only to him, he is beholden to his decision and will not back down from it.
As for Gordon’s venting: The deed is done and people will pounce on the guy. The resulting effect is noise, media noise. Remember the Villar-C5 media noise? Villar knows how to use the noise to his advantage. I say that Gordon should use the opportunity, something you already mentioned in a previous comment.
A PR man (not a miracle worker) can spin the story to Gordon’s advantage, if done properly. Think of it. Gordon cries foul. He’s fighting for his right as a candidate to be heard; there is a better choice. That is the story.
Cheers!
ilda Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:11 am
Another thing Mr___________
I wouldn’t take it against Gordon that he cries. To me he is just being transparent about how he feels. You can see the sincerity and passion in what he is doing, while others prefer to have poker faces and “ngiting aso”. Those are the ones you should be careful with.
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Mr.__________ Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:16 am
At Ilda- I didn’t know he cried? And if he did cry- so what? crying about something is different to outbursts at the airport or survey results.
Crying is a more positive way of releasing frustrations
usi Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:20 am
i agree w/ Ilda..even Lee Kuan Yew cried on national TV when Malaysia kicked out Singapore..look at what Lee Kuan Yew was able to achieve for Singapore.
this is why i mentioned Pinoy culture. i wasn’t trying to put you down. it’s what i have observed after working in other countries.
ilda Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:22 am
Yes, he did cry in the past. He is very sincere and passionate about what he wants for the country.
usi Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 4:47 am
so who are you going for? it’s funny how you major on the minors..
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Mr.__________ Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:00 am
@Usi, I’m voting for Villar- pls. see above comments
As I said earlier, I agree to disagree
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usi Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:07 am
oh…now i understand why you’re making such a big deal about ‘personality’…hehe
ChinoF Reply:
April 26th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Lahat naman may pangit na ugali eh. Erap has the worst ugalis. Why pick on Gordon?
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Homer Reply:
April 26th, 2010 at 4:03 am
Of all the things that were said in the discussion above, the phrase I’m quoting (below) is the only part that made sense to me. There are times when the right candidate may not have character traits that appeal to us. I can live with that as long as the candidate steers us in the right direction.
“…sorry for making a big fuss in your comments page. hahahaha”
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usi Reply:
April 26th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
@Homer: i agree..that’s the reason why i told Mr. ____ after he said he’s voting for Villar, “oh…now i understand why you’re making such a big deal about ‘personality’…hehe” ..he’s just publicizing on AP that he’d rather have a LIAR who keeps his cool over an honest man who has few outbursts..
Ilda and Usi and other peeps
we obviously have different takes on the issue.
No matter what, I think the points we have said could not be changed.
Maybe this is the point of democracy- exchanging ideas.
I for one have got to go- thanks for the insight and good luck with your candidate.
PS
I for one am still a fan of antipinoy sorry for making a big fuss in your comments page. hahahaha
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ilda Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 5:31 am
No problem Mr _________
Thanks for flying AntiPinoy.com!
After the election is over, that’s when the real battle begins!
Whether Gordon wins or loses the election, panalo pa din ang AntiPinoy.com!
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ChinoF Reply:
April 26th, 2010 at 12:39 am
Good luck to the Philippines, whoever wins.
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Homer Reply:
April 26th, 2010 at 4:05 am
Of all the things that were said in the discussion above, the phrase I’m quoting (below) is the only part that made sense to me. There are times when the right candidate may not have character traits that appeal to us. I can live with that as long as the candidate steers us in the right direction.
“…sorry for making a big fuss in your comments page. hahahaha”
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AWAY AWAY PA KAYO DYAN E ANG MANANANALO NAMAN SI NOYNOY AQUINO!
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ilda Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 9:27 am
We were having a civil intellectual discussion which I am sure Noynoy supporters are not familiar with because you guys have been mislead to believe that it is Noynoy’s right to be the next president kahit wala namang nagawa sa Senado. I hope you now realise how delusional that belief is.
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ilda Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 9:29 am
I hope you now see how respectful Gordon and Villar supporters are compared to Noynoy supporters
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usi Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 9:39 am
@Dick kuno: ‘are’ kapag plural ..
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waitwat Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 10:09 am
With a ‘+’ sign, it is considered a collective. 1+1 is 2.
Why am I defending that, turd??? *sigh*
Translation:(Bakit ko pinagtatanggol ‘yang tae na ‘yan?)
He doesn’t even read and don’t want to understand. Blind fanaticism I tell you….
Translation: (Ni-hindi nya binasa and ayaw intindihin. Bulag na paghanga, sinasabi ko sa’yo…..)
Maybe he just need people to translate for him…. You know…. can’t read English?
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usi Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 10:53 am
@waitwat: may point ka..’and’ ang interpretation ko kasi dun sa ‘+’ nya..
mukhang binasa naman nya yung comments..at na-disappoint na walang Noynoy-ista..hehe
brianitus Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Blah, blah, blah..dick. Admit it, you’re fond of dick. You want two dicks pa. Control yourself.
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waitwat Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 11:11 am
A red and orange one.
*hurl*
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BongV Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 7:10 am
yeah, people said the same thing about Erap
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I’ve decided to try my best to avoid issues and controversies when deciding on a candidate (because if you really looked for them, you will find them in EVERY, and I mean EVERY, candidate out there), but I can’t help but write my observations here, based on the comments:
Issues (as I’ve read and perceived them)
1. Villar – C5 controversy, Exaggerating his coming from the poor, tackless use and exaggeration of his brothers’ death, overspending and violation of election law, questionable deals in real estate especially when he started his career in government
2. Noynoy – Hacienda Luisita, lackluster public service record, overspending and violation of election law,irresponsible declaration of failure of elections if he doesn’t win
3. Gordon – public outbursts. crying in public. complaining, suing, requesting TROs on/about surveys.
4. Erap – do I really need to enumerate them?
5. Gibo – association with GMA. Questionable handling of Ondoy disaster. Big ears (hehe, just my observation, not really an issue).
6. Haven’t read much about Perlas, Bro. Eddie, and JC – but my general issue with them is their lack of experience in government (and handling the corrupt system that is the government).
I dunno how everyone else does the issues math, but it seems like Gordon has the least amount of issues. Plus, do they really outweigh his achievements and platform?
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ben Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Exactly.
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J.B. Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Gordon’s public display of temper can be his undoing at this stage of campaign. Harry Trumans “speak softly but carry a big stick” maybe a better approach.
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Jesus got mad too Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Dick Gordon got mad? Had outbursts?!?
Is he the only one???
JESUS GOT MAD TOO!!
Jesus at the Temple? Dealing with the Money-changers?!?
HE WAS MAD!! HE HAD AN OUTBURST!!
And it was righteous indignation. If Jesus, the Perfect Human, Perfect God, Son-of-God can get mad and be righteously indignant, why can’t Dick Gordon who isn’t the Son of God and is only human??
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ChinoF Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 1:57 am
Find the controversy or “undesirable trait” you can live with. There’s no politics without “issues” anyway. Besides, even your best friend will always have a trait that you so vehemently hate.
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I like Gordon’s attitude – NO BS.
Ang Pinoy kasi, ang daming BS, puro palusot.
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BongV Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Ang aangal ng outburst yung tinamaan.
Eh kung di tatanga tanga ba’t naman tatamaan di ba?
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usi Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 3:59 am
at gusto ng Pinoy yung pine-patronize sila..sugar-coated ang message..in denial kasi!
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The complaint that survey firms did not seek his permission to put his name on their survey lists is neither emotional nor rational. It is a mistake. Gordon is clearly a guy who will look for scapegoats when things are not going his way, even at the expense of fundamental freedom of expression, or freedom to probe for information. What is next, suing me for opining against him?
Scary.
Joe
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BenK Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 2:26 am
Emotional, yes, rational, no. Nor legally-supportable, I would imagine; I would think that the act of filing a certificate of candidacy trumps certain rights to privacy.
It’s also an inconsistent message. Gordon has spent much of his campaign telling people (rightly, IMO) that they should ignore the surveys….And then comes up with this, which just puts everyone’s focus back on them. It’s a very…Aquinoesque approach to things. About the only positive I can spin out of this is that at least it still doesn’t make Gordon look as bad as Noynoy, who’s threatening everyone with open insurrection if he doesn’t get his way and be handed the presidency. But comparing degrees of negativity is not the best way to be making assessments at this late stage of the campaign, and all these guys should be giving their prospective employers something better.
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usi Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 4:04 am
i do hope Gordon wins this case. i know many who voted for GMA last time, even if they knew Roco was the best candidate, because they didn’t want FPJ to win.. same story, ’twas because of SWS and Pulse Asia..
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ben Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 4:22 am
Timing is bad, I admit. But really, like I said in a previous comment, these aren’t the last elections ever. And if even Gordon cant fix it now (even if he doesn’t win), it will at least hopefully get fixed for future elections. You can knock on him now, but you (maybe not you Joe since you’re American) will be grateful for the step he took in fixing stupid issue. If I’m not mistaken, exposing presidential survey results to the public is illegal. Funny how we blame Gordon for fighting against this yet no1 acknowledges the illegal acts of these survey companies.
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BenK Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 5:00 am
What’s illegal about the surveys? Nothing, as far as I can tell. They’re poorly-done and self-serving (benefiting the vested interests that commission them), but that’s not illegal. Marketing them to get people to pay attention to them and attach more importance to them than rationally should be is not illegal, either. If there’s an issue that should be addressed, it’s the unethical behavior of the media (certain organizations in particular) in promoting certain candidates and the survey results — but not having any journalistic integrity is not illegal.
The real problem is getting the Pinoy voter to think for himself. Is what Dick Gordon is doing with regard to the surveys working towards that goal? I’m not sure it is.
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ben Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 5:16 am
I never said the surveys were illegal. I said the exposure of the results was. I heard one of the candidates say it in a forum a few months ago. If someone can get more info on that then it would be helpful.
Please BenK, why do I feel that you hate me?
ben Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 5:20 am
Found something: http://politics.inquirer.net/politics/view/20100413-264022/Gordon-threatens-to-file-charges-vs-survey-firms
Appears to be legal, but now that we are within the 15 day ban of surveys, let’s see if these companies will comply. If not, meh… That’s the Philippines for ya…
BenK Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 5:36 am
Oh no, you’re actually pretty high on my list. If I didn’t like you, I’d ignore you. Besides, if you’re going to have that name, you have to strive for awesomeness at all times, so I’m here to keep you on your toes.
And you did say “illegal acts” in so many words. There are lots of things that are stupid, inadvisable, and ill-intentioned that are not necessarily illegal. The little tidbit you found, that’s something clear, so that’s different.
ben Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 5:48 am
Well, I don’t base anything that I say on nothing.
Thanks BenK, I love you too (less than three)
Dick Gordon got mad? Had outbursts?!?
Is he the only one???
JESUS GOT MAD TOO!!
Jesus at the Temple? Dealing with the Money-changers?!?
HE WAS MAD!! HE HAD AN OUTBURST!!
And it was righteous indignation. If Jesus, the Perfect Human, Perfect God, Son-of-God can get mad and be righteously indignant, why can’t Dick Gordon who isn’t the Son of God and is only human??
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ChinoF Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Goooooooooood point!
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Joe America Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
I think Jesus deployed his anger for a purpose. He did not let his anger deploy him.
Getting mad at survey firms and constraining your and my freedom of expression is not something Jesus would be high on.
Joe
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BongV Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
When the survey firms skew the output of the elections by creating a false bandwagon? you have got all the right in the world to be mad – it’s not illegal, but it’s unethical.
at least he sued you up front, if it were a trapo’s thug – they’ll just shoot you.
just a matter of perspective in case you forgot where gordon is coming from.
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I am an INC member. I am currently based in the United States. I have followed and watched Senator Gordon’s career during his years as the SBMA Chairman. It is rare to have a presidential candidate who has all the qualities in which our country badly needed to lead the people to prosperity. Many of our members are pleading to our Church Leaders to endorse Senator Gordon. I am not about to criticize our leaders, but I am convinced if he becomes the country’s next president, our country will go through a huge transformation in which every Filipino citizen can embrace. The PDI reports that there are only 2 million members of the INC. I am not going into details, but if you analyze it very closely the INC has been around since 1914. Do you really think there are only 2 million members? The Church had spread to over 88 countries worldwide. Out of 50 million registered voters in the Philippines, I can only imagine the percentage of bloc votes that can be gathered to one candidate that will catapult him to Malacanang. I hope and prayed that man is Senator Richard Dick Gordon.
This is what I am looking forward to if Senator Gordon wins the presidency. He said he will be a salesman president. He will approach big companies worldwide to invest in the Philippines just like what he did with FedEX with a new hope of creating new jobs for our countrymen.
http://www-cgi.cnn.com/ASIANOW/asiaweek/96/0719/biz6.html
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Okay folks, seriously. What’s with all this **** going around about Gordon’s personality and whatever? Guys, this isn’t a Saturday night date we’re trying to pick here. We’re trying to pick the President of what is probably the deepest ****hole in Asia there is. We need someone who’ll help us out of that ****hole, not dig it even deeper. Mr. ______, you can go suck Noynoy’s **** for all I care. Sheep like you is what’s keeping this country in the gutter.
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ben Reply:
April 26th, 2010 at 12:44 am
Actually, Mr. ______ is voting for Villar
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ChinoF Reply:
April 26th, 2010 at 2:14 am
Hey Josh, Mr. ___ is for Villar. At least he had a reasoned argument. Though I agree about not going for the personality. For example, Noynoy is most likely a nice guy in person, but when you put him up in office, he’s too nice to his cronies (which includes his sisters) that they’ll run roughshod over the cesspool that’s our country now.
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Oh. Okay. Then by all means, he should feel free Villar’s c*ck. it would still make him look like a paid whor…I mean, hack.
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Best of many luck to Sen Gordon. The hearing against Pulse Asia and SWS suppose to take place on Tuesday 2:15pm. I can only wish that the court will not trash or dismiss the case.
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/network/hearing-set-gordons-complaint-vs-survey-firms-215-pm
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I remember reading the comments made by steve jobs employees when he got fired they’re glad he’s gone when sculley took over apple, steve jobs was described as an erratic and temperamental manager who terrorizes everyone but hes disappearance left a big void in apple, sales slump, no new products where being introduced because the man with the vision was fired in apple and that made the people miss the man who terrorizes them. i tend to look at gordon as steve jobs who is arrogant and never stops hanngang di nya na a-accomplish yung work nya. tama nga si gordon when he said that kaya tingin sa kanya ay arrogante dahil balat sibuyas lang sila who are easily offended pag nasisigawan. kaya sa mga tao na nagsasabi na arrogante sya balat sibuyas lang kayo at sensitive
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i chanced to watch last night a segment of ABS CBN’s news program Bandila and they had Gordon in their “Harapan”t. Man, did he blew the Omaga-Diaz and Orena-Drilon off their footing when he seemingly turned against them (as the embodiment of media malpractice ABS is doing for sometime).
I remember one part in which when Ces Drilon asked him about why he said Lito Lapid is more qualified than Noynoy he straigtforwardly answered the question “Si Lapid me pinasang isang Bill si Noy wala, wala, THATS A FACT”
Then Ces would follow up her question of why he said something like that (which obviously she is instigating that Gordon started the fray of “paninira” and “pagpaparinig”) he answered, “E sinagot ko lang ang mga tanong nga mga media ng totoo, Kayo ang media ang nagtanung nuon sa akin”
The Ces (having been caught flat footed and off balanced all the time) not giving up and was obviously trying to redeem herself asked why is Gordon singling out Noynoy on his verbal attacks in which Gordon answered he is not singling out Noy but also Villar, Gibo and others citing obvious and factual parcels of truths on each individuals (having heaviest of course on Villars alleged corruption and Noynoy’s incompetence) i remember him saying in a form like
“e sa wala naman kasi talagang kakayahan si Noynoy at puro pangalan ng Ama, ng Ina at ng mga Kapatid pero kung suriin ang track records ay walang accomplishments, gusto ba nating maging ganito ang presidente natin AND THE THINGS I AM SAYING ARE ACTUAL FACTS!”
Finally Ces was trying to retort saying something about Gordon may have gotten his facts wrong in which Gordon cooly and smilingly rebutted that what ever he said are facts even citing that some of the info came from ABS themselves then he told Ces the words…..
..”You can research on the documents if you want…GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT KID”…….
Sweeeeeeeet, pare.
I have not seen any of the candidate as frank and abrasive as him in the media. Usually you would see politicians sucking up to media people trying to maintain a” goody two shoes” persona.
I’d wager that ABS and other media are starting to demonize those actions of Gordon as acts of arrogance or a sore loser, but i really saw it differently, i saw a man not afraid of what others would think and would take difficult decisions at the cost of being unpopular. That for me is a sign of true leadership.
Swimming against the flow
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waitwat Reply:
April 27th, 2010 at 12:50 am
Atta boy, Dick! Show ‘em what the media is supposed to do. Tell the unbiased truth.
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kid dynamo Reply:
April 27th, 2010 at 6:56 am
Its very rare to see guys like him being able to turn the tables around like that, straightforward no nonsense talk with no suck up. Ces was visibly kept off balanced, Omaga Diaz was simply cut off and was kept silent most of the time. You can see through their fake smiles and laughs the phrase “$h!t, were being massacred here, common guys bail us out!”
And dude Gordon mowed them down most of the time within the 30 second limit!
As our colleague here mentioned, Bandila got owned b Gordon on this one….Big Time…..
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While I truly liked AntiPinoy, it disappoints me that your “lunod-patay” defense on Gordon’s tirade against the SWS and Pulse Asia is, like the very trait that you hate about the Filipinos, onion-skinned.
Survey results pointing to Noynoy or Villar as leading in the surveys cannot be just arrogantly dismissed. While these results, as we advocates of AntiPinoy already know confirms the incapacity of the Filipino electorate to discern properly and choose the rightful candidate, it does point to the saddest fact…that we are right.. Even without the surveys, the numbers that go to the sorties of these candidates, deserved or not, is the real picture…THAT WE ARE STUPID VOTERS.
Gordon could have, in a more statesmanly way, acknowledged that SAD reality and used it as an opportunity to point out the weakness of the electorate. He could have positively influenced the voters to take a second look. Well perhaps there was also something positive that happened as a result favoring Gordon but i would just like to share that many of my foreign friends found Gordon’s legal action against SWS and Pulse Asia as shooting himself in the foot .
Antipinoy writers too, vehemently defending Gordon’s stupid knee-jerk reaction, showed the world just exactly how Emotional they can get similar to the people they criticize a lot.
AntiPinoy should practice what it preaches lest it loses the credibility that it so holds high. There is a saying “People living in glass houses cannot throw stones”. i am not sure if I got that right, but you are all smart and know what I mean.
By the way, I’m voting for Perlas.
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waitwat Reply:
April 29th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
He made a horrible mistake in that. It was a mistake to bring that up now of all times.
And about the integrity of the views and comments of the authors. I can also see some fluctuations on their parts. That was what I was asking them then. I think, Ilda spoke for that or something.
But his credibility for me is still unchanged. I will still vote for Gordon.
BTW, I think Dick praised Perlas in the NU Radio interview. I could be wrong.
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ilda Reply:
May 1st, 2010 at 11:43 pm
@Waitwat
I don’t get this. Site specifics, please. You can’t make statements like this without going into details.
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BongV Reply:
April 29th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Gordon’s position is quite substantiated OUTSIDE the Philippines.
Try broadening your reading from just Perlas to include “Broken Compass: How Britain Lost Its Way”.
Try refuting the points – Bradley Effect, Later Swing, Shy Tory, and the Uncertainty Principle after the FACT of the US 1948 elections, 1992 Tory Defeat, and the EU studies on opinion polls
Based on the manner you replied to Gordon’s assertions, I’s day – lalong nagmukhang Noynoy in NGO clothing si Perlas.
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GCL Reply:
April 29th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Tsk! tsk! tsk! Onion-skin. Mudslinging ka na rin BongV. Nagiging Noynoy ka na o Villar, ah.
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AntiPinoys,
Our spoken/written words have energies. Negative words tend to make people, especially those who get criticized, hide some more and not hear the message. Oftentimes, they make people deaf or hear less or become defensive .
Perhaps it is better if we send positive energies instead. i’m not talking about turning a blind eye to our negative traits, traditions, and habits as Filipinos but rather to Encourage our fellow Filipinos on a more positive note. This will include each one of us to find a creative way to get the less discerning voters to really heighten their reasoning so that they may find the real candidate to choose as President of this country. We have no more other chance except this May 10. We may have to undergo so much chaos if we do not choose well. 50% of our voting brothers and sisters are still undecided. We can still veer them away from a potentially disastrous future.
We are all interconnected, We are all guilty, We allowed these rotten leaders to lead and we are also rotten ourselves. We can still change this. We have to be the change we want to see. Let us help each other, encourage each other to become that CHANGE we want to see in our country.
We can only do this in an encouraging way, not the condemning way. This may later the artistic landscape of AntiPinoy but perhaps there is a more creative way than fight each other. Afterall, we cannot do without the other.
It is our destiny as a nation to be great, to rise above the mediocrity that we are now mired in. We can do this, together, all of us, you and me.
All the Light and Love.
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ilda Reply:
May 2nd, 2010 at 12:01 am
GCL,
Each individual is different. The style employed here in AntiPinoy may work for some but not for others. The reason it doesn’t work for others is because our culture has been conditioned to idolize those who are perceived to be meek and amiable. It is very, very obvious that after decades in the loving care of the meek and amiable late Cory Aquino, someone who used loving words and prayed a lot for manna from heaven while she was still alive, majority of Filipinos still remained apathetic. Her style still didn’t work for the Filipino people. A lot might say that she was very positive in her approach. What good did it do? It only made people complacent. What we need is to try a different approach because to do the same thing over and over but expect a different result is just plain crazy.
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ChinoF Reply:
May 2nd, 2010 at 1:33 am
While we want to become positive, there seems to be a big obstacle to that (click to see my article about it).
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BongV,
I’m sorry for saying “stupid knee-jerk” reaction. I did not mean to point that to Gordon’s character but to his reaction only.
i’m sorry too for saying “onion-skin”. In hindsight, this will not help us unite to bring real change to our country. i know that all the clamor that drives Antipinoy is actually a deep-seated desire to see this country change for the best.
May we be guided by our higher selves as we go through the darkness that our country and we as a people usher a new era where the Filipinos become Marangal, Malaya at Matalino.
All my respects to all of you here!
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Susmarusep! Mga balat sibuyas!
Think of what the country needs instead of your being so sensitive to Dick Gordon’s passionate and no-nonsense ways.
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@ GCL, you said:
I take your point on that. Perhaps if you can recommend specific examples of how one might articulate “positive energy”, we can have a clearer view of where we might go with this proposal of yours.
What I’m getting at here is that whilst there is so much specific aspects of Pinoy society that can be construed as “negative”, it takes quite a bit of imaginative license that just about borders on fiction writing to come up with a “positive” angle on the Pinoy condition. There is simply nothing “positive” that can be written about the Philippines with a straight face without insulting peoples’ intelligence.
You can’t build a new and improved building on a lot where a derelict structure stands. You have to demolish the structure, remove the debris, and flatten the land first before you can put up a new building that will last. Same with Pinoy society. Our culture is so heavily strewn with derelict traditions and moronic mindsets as to render anything new we try to build upon it structurally unsound.
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